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by Tenshinai
» Tue Apr 05, 2016 8:22 am
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This might interest some:
http://groups.csail.mit.edu/mac/users/r ... kweek.html 13th century - Adult male peasant, U.K.: 1620 hours 14th century - Casual laborer, U.K.: 1440 hours 1850 - Average worker, U.S.: 3150-3650 hours 1988 - Manufacturing workers, U.K.: 1856 hours Well worth reading through. |
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by DDHvi
» Wed Apr 06, 2016 10:42 pm
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Interesting. We seem to have traded time for increased things. Automation reduces the work hours for a given amount of production. However, the jobs that remain require higher information content by the worker. I can see demagogues railing against labor-saving machinery, instead of pointing people to possible other things they can do. One source comments that the expected results of a major economic or social crash is that many will be living in a way our ancestors took for granted. There are long odds that many will insist someone else do something about it, instead of doing what they can themselves. Luddism, anyone  Douglas Hvistendahl
Retired technical nerd ddhviste@drtel.net Dumb mistakes are very irritating. Smart mistakes go on forever Unless you test your assumptions! |
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by Daryl
» Thu Apr 07, 2016 1:05 am
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Don't forget that this is for unskilled adult males, but household work hours would be much higher than previously. Historically the "little woman" stayed home, but with childcare and antidiscrimination laws many only take a few weeks off before and after birth now.
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by HB of CJ
» Mon Apr 11, 2016 1:18 pm
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Being a grandparent directly involved in the raising of the grandkids, it has been observed that all the daily available time is consumed. What is so cool about it is that we wake up after only 8 hours of good sleep with a smile on our faces.
Home schooling is not easy. It takes time and effort. That along with all the other necessary things there is always something to do during daylight hours. Longer spring days are appreciated. Perhaps we out here are already living like 800 years ago? Not yet. Getting closer due to the big planned garden. So many things non directly related to fresh food are now being done. Our living situation, (homesteading in SW OR USA) is NOT mainstream. I also find I spend too much time on a computer! |
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by DDHvi
» Tue Apr 12, 2016 11:01 pm
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Bj can't have kids, so we have to borrow "grandkids." Not quite the same thing. We've been planting cold tolerant things outside for about four weeks, here in NDak ,USA. Some radishes & peas are up, and transplanted lettuce, spinach, onions, etc. are doing fine. Getting these out of the way now leaves more time later for warm weather crops. Here onions winter over fine. A little leaves on them doesn't hurt, but only matters in colder winters. This early they tend to be squishy, since the plant is drawing on the bulb for faster growth. FYI  Douglas Hvistendahl
Retired technical nerd ddhviste@drtel.net Dumb mistakes are very irritating. Smart mistakes go on forever Unless you test your assumptions! |
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by umbrarchist
» Fri Apr 15, 2016 5:37 pm
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It is 47 years after the Moon landing. We have a robot on Mars called "Curiosity".
The clowns we call scienctists have no curiosity about whether or not Planned Obsolescence is happening in automobiles but some how we are supposed to stop Global Warming without admitting it. How much CO2 is the result of Planned Obsolescence for the last 50 years? How long will we keep pretending it ain't happening? Notice that double-entry accounting is 700 years old but it is notmandatory in our schools. |
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by Tenshinai
» Mon Apr 18, 2016 8:16 am
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A HUGE chunk of the total. |
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by DDHv
» Mon Apr 18, 2016 10:17 pm
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This makes it easy for mal-investment to occur without many people noticing it. Someone commented that the best contribution of the Austrian school of economics was their definition of inflation. IIRC that is: Inflation is when the increase of credit out paces the sum of savings and foreign investment for a given currency area. Note that this can produce inflation without immediate price rises, for example by putting a lot of the credit into improving oil supply, automobile supply, and student supply.  If they are right, there will be interesting and distressing developments in the oil E&P industry, the auto industry, and student loan repayments. The bad thing about credit mal-investment is that many companies are indirectly hurt, securitization being one means of that.  PS, we are expanding the size of our backyard garden this year. Guess why  Douglas Hvistendahl
Retired technical nerd Dumb mistakes are very irritating. Smart mistakes go on forever Unless you test your assumptions! |
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