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Ok, jumping in...
Post by Isilith   » Mon Apr 11, 2016 2:16 pm

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... with both feet.

I love David Weber's work, I have read all the Safehold books about 5 times each, I have read the Empire of Man books 2-3 times each, Shiva option, etc... Heck, I even loved Out of the Dark.

That said, I have never read the HH series. I think part of it was the sheer number of books. Not just the main series, but all the spin off series as well.

Well, I finally gave in, I just ordered all 13 of the HH books. Wish me luck, and pray the wife doesn't kill me.
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Re: Ok, jumping in...
Post by Theemile   » Mon Apr 11, 2016 2:33 pm

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Isilith wrote:... with both feet.

I love David Weber's work, I have read all the Safehold books about 5 times each, I have read the Empire of Man books 2-3 times each, Shiva option, etc... Heck, I even loved Out of the Dark.

That said, I have never read the HH series. I think part of it was the sheer number of books. Not just the main series, but all the spin off series as well.

Well, I finally gave in, I just ordered all 13 of the HH books. Wish me luck, and pray the wife doesn't kill me.


Good luck and God Bless. Don't forget to surface for air now and then.
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RFC said "refitting a Beowulfan SD to Manticoran standards would be just as difficult as refitting a standard SLN SD to those standards. In other words, it would be cheaper and faster to build new ships."
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Re: Ok, jumping in...
Post by Vince   » Mon Apr 11, 2016 3:22 pm

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Isilith wrote:... with both feet.

I love David Weber's work, I have read all the Safehold books about 5 times each, I have read the Empire of Man books 2-3 times each, Shiva option, etc... Heck, I even loved Out of the Dark.

That said, I have never read the HH series. I think part of it was the sheer number of books. Not just the main series, but all the spin off series as well.

Well, I finally gave in, I just ordered all 13 of the HH books. Wish me luck, and pray the wife doesn't kill me.

What Theemile said about air, especially. Because it's more than 13 books.

The main Honorverse series (Includes the mainline Honor books, the Shadows books, the Crown of Slaves books, and the anthologies.)

1. On Basilisk Station (Apr 1992)
2. Honor of the Queen (June 1993)
3. The Short Victorious War (Apr 1994)
4. Field of Dishonor (Dec 1994)
5. Flag In Exile (Sep 1995)
6. Honor Among Enemies (Feb 1996)
7. In Enemy Hands (Jul 1997)
8. More Than Honor (Jan 1998) (Anthology)
9. Echoes of Honor (Oct 1998)
10. Worlds of Honor (Feb 1999) (Anthology)
11. Ashes of Victory (Mar 2000)
12. Changer of Worlds (Mar 2001) (Anthology)
13. War of Honor (Oct 2002)
14. The Service of the Sword (Apr 2003) (Anthology)
15. Crown of Slaves (Sep 2003)
16. The Shadow of Saganami (Oct 2004)
17. At All Costs (Nov 2005)
18. Storm from the Shadows (Mar 2009)
19. Torch of Freedom (Nov 2009)
20. Mission of Honor (June 2010)
21. In Fire Forged (Feb 2011) (Anthology)
22. A Rising Thunder (Mar 2012)
23. Shadow of Freedom (Mar 2013)
24. House of Steel (May 2013) (Compendium)
Grayson Navy Letters Home (2012) in the Baen Free Short Stories 2012 collection.
25. Beginnings (July 2013) (Anthology)
26. Cauldron of Ghosts (Apr 2014)
27. Shadow of Victory (forthcoming Nov 2016)

The Star Kingdom series: (Stephanie Harrington & treecats)

0. Honorverse Tech Bu9 (Oct 2011) in the Baen Free Short Stories 2011 collection.
1. A Beautiful Friendship (Oct 2011)
2. Fire Season (Oct 2012)
3. Treecat Wars (Oct 2013)

The Manticore Ascendant series: (very early RMN)

0. A Call to Arms in the Beginnings anthology (July 2013)
1. A Call to Duty (Oct 2014)
2. A Call to Arms (Oct 2015)

Dates in parenthesis are the date the books were (or are scheduled to be) published.
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Re: Ok, jumping in...
Post by Theemile   » Mon Apr 11, 2016 3:42 pm

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It's important to read EVERYTHING in order of publication. That includes the short stories and compendium (The Manticore Ascendant and Stephanie Harrington novels are set in another time period and can be read outside the main publication order, but in series pub order.) Everything ties together or, in some cases, runs concurrent, so reading an anthology out of order will leave you scratching your head trying to figure out who some characters are when they suddenly become Mainstream with a backstory.

Vince wrote:What Theemile said about air, especially. Because it's more than 13 books.

The main Honorverse series (Includes the mainline Honor books, the Shadows books, the Crown of Slaves books, and the anthologies.)

1. On Basilisk Station (Apr 1992)
2. Honor of the Queen (June 1993)
3. The Short Victorious War (Apr 1994)
4. Field of Dishonor (Dec 1994)
5. Flag In Exile (Sep 1995)
6. Honor Among Enemies (Feb 1996)
7. In Enemy Hands (Jul 1997)
8. More Than Honor (Jan 1998) (Anthology)
9. Echoes of Honor (Oct 1998)
10. Worlds of Honor (Feb 1999) (Anthology)
11. Ashes of Victory (Mar 2000)
12. Changer of Worlds (Mar 2001) (Anthology)
13. War of Honor (Oct 2002)
14. The Service of the Sword (Apr 2003) (Anthology)
15. Crown of Slaves (Sep 2003)
16. The Shadow of Saganami (Oct 2004)
17. At All Costs (Nov 2005)
18. Storm from the Shadows (Mar 2009)
19. Torch of Freedom (Nov 2009)
20. Mission of Honor (June 2010)
21. In Fire Forged (Feb 2011) (Anthology)
22. A Rising Thunder (Mar 2012)
23. Shadow of Freedom (Mar 2013)
24. House of Steel (May 2013) (Compendium)
Grayson Navy Letters Home (2012) in the Baen Free Short Stories 2012 collection.
25. Beginnings (July 2013) (Anthology)
26. Cauldron of Ghosts (Apr 2014)
27. Shadow of Victory (forthcoming Nov 2016)

The Star Kingdom series: (Stephanie Harrington & treecats)

0. Honorverse Tech Bu9 (Oct 2011) in the Baen Free Short Stories 2011 collection.
1. A Beautiful Friendship (Oct 2011)
2. Fire Season (Oct 2012)
3. Treecat Wars (Oct 2013)

The Manticore Ascendant series: (very early RMN)

0. A Call to Arms in the Beginnings anthology (July 2013)
1. A Call to Duty (Oct 2014)
2. A Call to Arms (Oct 2015)

Dates in parenthesis are the date the books were (or are scheduled to be) published.
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RFC said "refitting a Beowulfan SD to Manticoran standards would be just as difficult as refitting a standard SLN SD to those standards. In other words, it would be cheaper and faster to build new ships."
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Re: Ok, jumping in...
Post by drothgery   » Mon Apr 11, 2016 4:08 pm

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Theemile wrote:Everything ties together or, in some cases, runs concurrent, so reading an anthology out of order will leave you scratching your head trying to figure out who some characters are when they suddenly become Mainstream with a backstory.
Well, stories in anthologies by authors who aren't coauthors of any full novels can mostly be skipped and read whenever or not at all. As can short stories outside the main timeline (anything pre-1850 PD or so).
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Re: Ok, jumping in...
Post by saber964   » Mon Apr 11, 2016 4:11 pm

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Theemile wrote:It's important to read EVERYTHING in order of publication. That includes the short stories and compendium (The Manticore Ascendant and Stephanie Harrington novels are set in another time period and can be read outside the main publication order, but in series pub order.) Everything ties together or, in some cases, runs concurrent, so reading an anthology out of order will leave you scratching your head trying to figure out who some characters are when they suddenly become Mainstream with a backstory.

Vince wrote:What Theemile said about air, especially. Because it's more than 13 books.

The main Honorverse series (Includes the mainline Honor books, the Shadows books, the Crown of Slaves books, and the anthologies.)

1. On Basilisk Station (Apr 1992)
2. Honor of the Queen (June 1993)
3. The Short Victorious War (Apr 1994)
4. Field of Dishonor (Dec 1994)
5. Flag In Exile (Sep 1995)
6. Honor Among Enemies (Feb 1996)
7. In Enemy Hands (Jul 1997)
8. More Than Honor (Jan 1998) (Anthology)
9. Echoes of Honor (Oct 1998)
10. Worlds of Honor (Feb 1999) (Anthology)
11. Ashes of Victory (Mar 2000)
12. Changer of Worlds (Mar 2001) (Anthology)
13. War of Honor (Oct 2002)
14. The Service of the Sword (Apr 2003) (Anthology)
15. Crown of Slaves (Sep 2003)
16. The Shadow of Saganami (Oct 2004)
17. At All Costs (Nov 2005)
18. Storm from the Shadows (Mar 2009)
19. Torch of Freedom (Nov 2009)
20. Mission of Honor (June 2010)
21. In Fire Forged (Feb 2011) (Anthology)
22. A Rising Thunder (Mar 2012)
23. Shadow of Freedom (Mar 2013)
24. House of Steel (May 2013) (Compendium)
Grayson Navy Letters Home (2012) in the Baen Free Short Stories 2012 collection.
25. Beginnings (July 2013) (Anthology)
26. Cauldron of Ghosts (Apr 2014)
27. Shadow of Victory (forthcoming Nov 2016)

The Star Kingdom series: (Stephanie Harrington & treecats)

0. Honorverse Tech Bu9 (Oct 2011) in the Baen Free Short Stories 2011 collection.
1. A Beautiful Friendship (Oct 2011)
2. Fire Season (Oct 2012)
3. Treecat Wars (Oct 2013)

The Manticore Ascendant series: (very early RMN)

0. A Call to Arms in the Beginnings anthology (July 2013)
1. A Call to Duty (Oct 2014)
2. A Call to Arms (Oct 2015)

Dates in parenthesis are the date the books were (or are scheduled to be) published.



Not necessarily, the short story Changer of Worlds can be read before reading In Enemy Hands.
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Re: Ok, jumping in...
Post by Theemile   » Mon Apr 11, 2016 4:24 pm

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saber964 wrote:

Not necessarily, the short story Changer of Worlds can be read before reading In Enemy Hands.


Yes, but you cannot wait until the end of the series to read it.

Unless we were to write a list of when each story and short story happened and which order they should be read in (or ignored in), it's hard to guide someone without just saying: "read in pub order."
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RFC said "refitting a Beowulfan SD to Manticoran standards would be just as difficult as refitting a standard SLN SD to those standards. In other words, it would be cheaper and faster to build new ships."
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Re: Ok, jumping in...
Post by kzt   » Mon Apr 11, 2016 4:39 pm

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Short Stories that are worth going out of your way to read are (IMNSHO and in alphabetical order):
A Beautiful Friendship
A Whiff of Grapeshot
Changer of Worlds
From the Highlands
Fanatic (read after From the Highlands)
Let's Dance
Ms. Midshipwoman Harrington
Nightfall
Promised Land (great story - not critical to the story line)
Queen's Gambit
The Hard Way Home (not critical)
The Service of the Sword
What Price Dreams
The Universe of Honor Harrington (background)
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"Let's Do Prague" ...
Post by HB of CJ   » Mon Apr 11, 2016 5:22 pm

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What about "Let's do Prague"? Or am I confusing short story lines?
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Re: "Let's Do Prague" ...
Post by kzt   » Mon Apr 11, 2016 5:34 pm

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HB of CJ wrote:What about "Let's do Prague"? Or am I confusing short story lines?

Ringo's "Let's go to Prague" is fun and well written, but has no impact on anything else nor does it describe anything that you will run into elsewhere.
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