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Re: Shadow Of Victory
Post by JohnRoth   » Sat Apr 02, 2016 7:44 pm

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Meshakhad wrote:I also predict that this will be the moment for the Maya Sector to break away. Possibly leading to something like this:

Valeri Ottweiler: Oh, and it looks like the Maya Sector is actually going to succeed with its revolt. Who set that up?
Colin Detweiler: Wait... we didn't have any plans for a Maya Sector revolt!
Oravil Barregos: TROLOLOLOL!


Actually, the MAlign is setting up for a number of sectors to secede, with Maya Sector leading the pack. I'm a bit too lazy to dig out the textev at the moment, but it's said specifically in one of the Detweiller scenes.

The interesting question is: who's their agent on the scene?
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Re: Shadow Of Victory
Post by kzt   » Sat Apr 02, 2016 11:13 pm

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Meshakhad wrote:I also predict that this will be the moment for the Maya Sector to break away. Possibly leading to something like this:

Valeri Ottweiler: Oh, and it looks like the Maya Sector is actually going to succeed with its revolt. Who set that up?
Colin Detweiler: Wait... we didn't have any plans for a Maya Sector revolt!
Oravil Barregos: TROLOLOLOL!

They know all about. It's unclear how involved they are.
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Re: Shadow Of Victory
Post by Annachie   » Sat Apr 02, 2016 11:53 pm

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Probably very hands off, just in case.

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Re: Shadow Of Victory
Post by Kytheros   » Sun Apr 03, 2016 12:26 am

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kzt wrote:
Meshakhad wrote:I also predict that this will be the moment for the Maya Sector to break away. Possibly leading to something like this:

Valeri Ottweiler: Oh, and it looks like the Maya Sector is actually going to succeed with its revolt. Who set that up?
Colin Detweiler: Wait... we didn't have any plans for a Maya Sector revolt!
Oravil Barregos: TROLOLOLOL!

They know all about. It's unclear how involved they are.

From what has been said, my impression is that the MAlign isn't involved on the Maya Sector end - otherwise, they'd have gotten at least some access to the Manty-lite tech that Erewhon has and is providing Maya Sector.
The MAlign may be manipulating things behind the scenes of the League to help Barregos and company along some, however - Maya and their Sepoy Option is, after all, (so far as we know) a completely legitimate breakaway plan from the League with zero MAlign instigation or involvement, which makes it good cover for all the other operations the MAlign is running to break up the League.
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Re: Shadow Of Victory
Post by Montrose Toast   » Sun Apr 03, 2016 1:13 am

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I still do not buy it.

I expect the Gov of Maya Sector to turn out to be MAlign...
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Re: Shadow Of Victory
Post by darrell   » Sun Apr 03, 2016 2:16 am

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Montrose Toast wrote:I still do not buy it.

I expect the Gov of Maya Sector to turn out to be MAlign...


I don't buy that either the governor or top admiral of the maya sector to be part of the malign.

I am sure that the Malign has some agents in the goverment, probably mostly in the civilian side.

IMO the malign is unlikely to have much in the navy in the maya sector, as the malign does not have even the Mk-41 missile.
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Re: Shadow Of Victory
Post by kzt   » Sun Apr 03, 2016 2:31 am

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darrell wrote:IMO the malign is unlikely to have much in the navy in the maya sector, as the malign does not have even the Mk-41 missile.

Considering that there are probably a million people who have access to the technical docs at this point, the whole idea that they don't have this is not exactly believable at this point.

When you can plant an agent as the head of a government ministry you can plant one anywhere.
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Re: Shadow Of Victory
Post by Daryl   » Sun Apr 03, 2016 3:42 am

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Sorry, but as a retired senior civilian in our Defence area, I can testify that many of the military didn't much want to get into the details, as long as we kept supplying them with new toys. "Down in the weeds" was a typical pilot response.

So don't discount the influence or knowledge of the civillians. A little like how the aristocracy discussed matters in front of the servants in medieval times.

darrell wrote:
Montrose Toast wrote:I still do not buy it.

I expect the Gov of Maya Sector to turn out to be MAlign...


I don't buy that either the governor or top admiral of the maya sector to be part of the malign.

I am sure that the Malign has some agents in the goverment, probably mostly in the civilian side.

IMO the malign is unlikely to have much in the navy in the maya sector, as the malign does not have even the Mk-41 missile.
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Re: Shadow Of Victory
Post by darrell   » Sun Apr 03, 2016 6:20 am

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JohnRoth wrote:
Meshakhad wrote:I also predict that this will be the moment for the Maya Sector to break away. Possibly leading to something like this:

Valeri Ottweiler: Oh, and it looks like the Maya Sector is actually going to succeed with its revolt. Who set that up?
Colin Detweiler: Wait... we didn't have any plans for a Maya Sector revolt!
Oravil Barregos: TROLOLOLOL!


Actually, the MAlign is setting up for a number of sectors to secede, with Maya Sector leading the pack. I'm a bit too lazy to dig out the textev at the moment, but it's said specifically in one of the Detweiller scenes.

The interesting question is: who's their agent on the scene?


Not quite. They are setting up for a dozen systems to secede, not sectors.

I suspect that they are fairly close to mesa, and would expect one of them to be visigoth, I have no idea wheter the others are core or shell worlds, would not surprise me if some of them are anti-genetic slavery worlds such as smoking frog.
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Re: Shadow Of Victory
Post by JohnRoth   » Sun Apr 03, 2016 8:13 am

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Meshakhad wrote:I also predict that this will be the moment for the Maya Sector to break away. Possibly leading to something like this:

Valeri Ottweiler: Oh, and it looks like the Maya Sector is actually going to succeed with its revolt. Who set that up?
Colin Detweiler: Wait... we didn't have any plans for a Maya Sector revolt!
Oravil Barregos: TROLOLOLOL!


JohnRoth wrote:Actually, the MAlign is setting up for a number of sectors to secede, with Maya Sector leading the pack. I'm a bit too lazy to dig out the textev at the moment, but it's said specifically in one of the Detweiller scenes.

The interesting question is: who's their agent on the scene?


darrell wrote:Not quite. They are setting up for a dozen systems to secede, not sectors.

I suspect that they are fairly close to mesa, and would expect one of them to be visigoth, I have no idea wheter the others are core or shell worlds, would not surprise me if some of them are anti-genetic slavery worlds such as smoking frog.


Here it is. Notice that he's talking about a score (approx 20) of Frontier Security sectors. Visigoth is a league member, not a Frontier Security protectorate.

Mission of Honor wrote:Which meant they were absolutely essential. When the Manties hammered the SLN into wreckage yet again—when the carefully primed "spontaneous rebellions" broke out in a dozen places simultaneously in the Verge as the League Navy's reputation crumbled, and when the score of Frontier Security governors who'd been carefully prepared by their own versions of Aldona Anisimovna followed the example of the Maya Sector and unilaterally assumed emergency powers in order to "protect" the citizens of their sectors—the men and women around this table with Albert Detweiler would emerge as the leaders of a new interstellar power.
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