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[Album] HMS Warrior, the first battleship
Post by jpgray   » Tue Mar 01, 2016 3:00 pm

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Thought you guys might appreciate this, courtesy of /r/WarshiPorn. Cheers!


http://imgur.com/a/6Njdg
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Re: [Album] HMS Warrior, the first battleship
Post by USMA74   » Tue Mar 01, 2016 5:35 pm

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Thank you for the link. I had viewed similar photos years before and always thought that this is roughly what a Charisian Rottweiler class ship looked like.
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Re: [Album] HMS Warrior, the first battleship
Post by isaac_newton   » Wed Mar 02, 2016 7:47 am

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jpgray wrote:Thought you guys might appreciate this, courtesy of /r/WarshiPorn. Cheers!


http://imgur.com/a/6Njdg


Been on that one day a few years back. It's at the Portsmouth naval dockyards not far from the Victory and the Mary Rose.

Fascinating to compare the development over that 300/400 years!
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Re: [Album] HMS Warrior, the first battleship
Post by lyonheart   » Wed Mar 02, 2016 8:48 pm

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Hi Isaac_Newton,

All splendidly true.

The Mary Rose, Victory and Warrior do cover quite a gamut of ship types over more than 3 centuries of the RN, but its the lacks in the modern era that irk me the most.

For comparison purposes, given the only WWI or WW2 RN warship that survived the labor left+ effort to eliminate all possible military monuments to Britain's glorious past, was a light cruiser that missed much of the war from the repairs required for damages it'd suffered early on.

I got rather quickly tired of all the posters in southern England describing HMS Belfast as "the last all big gunned warship or even battleship of the RN" etc.

The fact that not a single RN BB of either war survived to become a museum ship is a continuing embarrassment.

I wonder if there isn't something in the North Sea or Scapa Flow they might salvage and restore.

L


isaac_newton wrote:
jpgray wrote:Thought you guys might appreciate this, courtesy of /r/WarshiPorn. Cheers!


http://imgur.com/a/6Njdg


Been on that one day a few years back. It's at the Portsmouth naval dockyards not far from the Victory and the Mary Rose.

Fascinating to compare the development over that 300/400 years!
Any snippet or post from RFC is good if not great!
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Re: [Album] HMS Warrior, the first battleship
Post by saber964   » Wed Mar 02, 2016 10:40 pm

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lyonheart wrote:Hi Isaac_Newton,

All splendidly true.

The Mary Rose, Victory and Warrior do cover quite a gamut of ship types over more than 3 centuries of the RN, but its the lacks in the modern era that irk me the most.

For comparison purposes, given the only WWI or WW2 RN warship that survived the labor left+ effort to eliminate all possible military monuments to Britain's glorious past, was a light cruiser that missed much of the war from the repairs required for damages it'd suffered early on.

I got rather quickly tired of all the posters in southern England describing HMS Belfast as "the last all big gunned warship or even battleship of the RN" etc.

The fact that not a single RN BB of either war survived to become a museum ship is a continuing embarrassment.

I wonder if there isn't something in the North Sea or Scapa Flow they might salvage and restore.

L


isaac_newton" quote="jpgray wrote:Thought you guys might appreciate this, courtesy of /r/WarshiPorn. Cheers!


http://imgur.com/a/6Njdg


Been on that one day a few years back. It's at the Portsmouth naval dockyards not far from the Victory and the Mary Rose.

Fascinating to compare the development over that 300/400 years!
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Good luck with that one. IIRC the only ship in Scapa Flow besides the remains of the German High Seas Fleet is the Battleship HMS Royal Oak.
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Re: [Album] HMS Warrior, the first battleship
Post by Captain Igloo   » Thu Mar 03, 2016 8:43 am

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Re: [Album] HMS Warrior, the first battleship
Post by isaac_newton   » Thu Mar 03, 2016 3:38 pm

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lyonheart wrote:Hi Isaac_Newton,

All splendidly true.

The Mary Rose, Victory and Warrior do cover quite a gamut of ship types over more than 3 centuries of the RN, but its the lacks in the modern era that irk me the most.

For comparison purposes, given the only WWI or WW2 RN warship that survived the labor left+ effort to eliminate all possible military monuments to Britain's glorious past, was a light cruiser that missed much of the war from the repairs required for damages it'd suffered early on.

I got rather quickly tired of all the posters in southern England describing HMS Belfast as "the last all big gunned warship or even battleship of the RN" etc.

The fact that not a single RN BB of either war survived to become a museum ship is a continuing embarrassment.

I wonder if there isn't something in the North Sea or Scapa Flow they might salvage and restore.

L


isaac_newton" quote="jpgray wrote:Thought you guys might appreciate this, courtesy of /r/WarshiPorn. Cheers!


http://imgur.com/a/6Njdg


Been on that one day a few years back. It's at the Portsmouth naval dockyards not far from the Victory and the Mary Rose.

Fascinating to compare the development over that 300/400 years!


Hi Lyon

that is quite true - I have to say that lack has never struck me before...

They do have an actual sail from the Victory in a large darkend sail-loft at the Yards.. would that do instead? :-)
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Re: [Album] HMS Warrior, the first battleship
Post by JustCurious   » Sat Mar 05, 2016 7:05 am

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lyonheart wrote:For comparison purposes, given the only WWI or WW2 RN warship that survived the labor left+ effort to eliminate all possible military monuments to Britain's glorious past, was a light cruiser that missed much of the war from the repairs required for damages it'd suffered early on.

I got rather quickly tired of all the posters in southern England describing HMS Belfast as "the last all big gunned warship or even battleship of the RN" etc.

The fact that not a single RN BB of either war survived

Belfast was one of ships that fought at North Cape. But I agree that one of the battleships should have been preserved as a memorial. The obvious one would have been HMS Warspite.
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Re: [Album] HMS Warrior, the first battleship
Post by Dilandu   » Sun Mar 06, 2016 5:38 am

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Well, actually the french "Gloire" was first. The "Warrior" usually considered as superior to "Gloire" because of its iron hull and greater speed...

But actually, "Warrior" have a tremendous number of problems. Her great lenght made her pretty hard to turn, i.e. in ironclad combat (which was fought on the small distances in this time) she have serious disandvantage. Her ends weren't armored at all, so she may be disabled without actual penetration. And, of course, her artillery in early 1860s were essentially useless: her Armstrong breechloading rifles simply were worse than smoothbores.

One of the reason, why Britain were reluctant to actually enter the US civil war - they weren't sure that the Royal Navy would not fail miserably (and they already have less ironclads than France).
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Oh well, if shortening the front is what the Germans crave,
Let's shorten it to very end - the length of Fuhrer's grave.

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Re: [Album] HMS Warrior, the first battleship
Post by 6L6   » Sun Mar 06, 2016 11:30 am

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So I would think that the Monitor could easily follow behind the Warrior shooting straight through her.
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