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Re: Rant about fanfiction
Post by drothgery   » Mon Feb 29, 2016 1:52 am

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timmopussycat wrote:
drothgery wrote:When I saw the title of this thread, I was half-expecting someone complaining about no new chapters of my stuff in over nine months ...

Though the next chapter of "An Offer She Can't Refuse" is about 2/3 done. Sadly, it's been that way for a while.


That's a very interesting tale, and one of the few examples of fanfic in this universe that works. Back to it sir!

Thanks. I can't promise anything, though.
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Re: Rant about fanfiction
Post by The E   » Mon Feb 29, 2016 3:55 am

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cthia wrote:
Relax wrote:Guess I am just an independent old cuss. I have never seen why anyone would feel justified taking someone else's work, and writing FANFIC. I can see doing it if ASKED and you are dirt poor and have no other income, but otherwise? Are they imaginatively bankrupt themselves that they cannot create a world/universe? Or just lazy? (I'll go with heaping plateful of lazy with a side helping of low imagination)

The whole idea of writing is to explore new avenues. To extrapolate ideologies cause and effects of said ideologies.

IMO, fanfic is the ultimate homage that can be paid to an author. If one likes your work so well that it stokes one's own imagination to the point that his fingers quiver to wield the quill in your imaginary world as well, then what more is the true measure of success and artistry?

If everyone shared your sentiment then perhaps the Star Trek world would have sadly died long ago and we never would have received such brilliant and truly epic works (in proportion and scope) of such classics as Spock's World by Diane Duane -- from which I borrowed my handle, cthia.

Fanfic also relegates works to immortal status that will often go on after the author dies.

Fanfic... is like macaroni and cheese. The best mac&cheese is that which uses many different cheeses.

And some talents are more contained in the area of recreating, reverse engineering, than in creating. See => the talents of the Japanese and Chinese industry. At one point in time.


Can't believe I'd ever do this, but I agree wholeheartedly with cthia on this issue. Nowadays, fanfic is a really good entryway into writing; by using someone else's universe, you can train your writing skills in the areas that actually matter in creating engaging fiction (such as plotting and character work), without getting bogged down in the details to establish a whole new world at the same time.

Personally, some of the most entertaining writing I have read has come from the realm of tie-in fiction, and that's basically fanfic with a publishing contract. In addition, shared universes are a proud tradition in SF/F, fanfic is following the same ideas, just without "official" support.
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Re: Rant about fanfiction
Post by The E   » Mon Feb 29, 2016 4:13 am

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Senior Chief wrote:Hmmm professional critic = politician = blood sucking tick


Writers (Artists in general, really) need good critics to become great.
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Re: Rant about fanfiction
Post by noblehunter   » Mon Feb 29, 2016 2:55 pm

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Fanfic's probably the easiest way to write short fiction that people will actually read. There's built-in audience with (for better or worse) minimal gatekeeping. It also doesn't need to worry about being profitable or self-sustaining.

It's easier to experiment with content or themes when a common vocabulary can be assumed. Especially in SFF, worldbuilding is a major obstacle that may not be worth surmounting in order to tell a funny story about telepathic sentient hexapedal pseudo-felines and their utter confusion at teenage dating rituals.
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Re: Rant about fanfiction
Post by Michael Everett   » Mon Feb 29, 2016 4:18 pm

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noblehunter wrote:It's easier to experiment with content or themes when a common vocabulary can be assumed. Especially in SFF, worldbuilding is a major obstacle that may not be worth surmounting in order to tell a funny story about telepathic sentient hexapedal pseudo-felines and their utter confusion at teenage dating rituals.

...I once wrote about 18K words of a non-fanfic story about a civilization of sentient hexapedal pseudo-felines...
Never put it online as I lost the thread of the plot (what little there was) in chapter 5.
That was years ago and I still have no clue where the heck I had intended to go with it.
Same with the other dozen incomplete original stories languishing on by hard disk.
Fanfic is easier in that respect because you can usually use canon as a rough guide for plot direction or inspiration.
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Re: Rant about fanfiction
Post by BrigadeΔ   » Tue Mar 08, 2016 9:43 pm

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I have only been on fanfiction one time, I looked at what is there with regards to honerverse stuff and then realized that I could tell who had written the story I was looking at. After that I have not been back.
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Re: Rant about fanfiction
Post by kzt   » Tue Mar 08, 2016 9:46 pm

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Evergreen shut down.
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Re: Rant about fanfiction
Post by BrigadeΔ   » Sun Mar 13, 2016 5:29 pm

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kzt wrote:Evergreen shut down.

I forgot to put spaces between my signature and the posts, no other forum I know of does not have them built in.
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