Honorverse Hall of Shame

JeffEngel wrote:

saber964 wrote:Well considering that Michael Janvier is doing a nice stretch in prison.

I'm sure Manticore can install him somewhere perfectly unpleasant without that much effort. Possibly a nice camp at one of Grymphon's poles. Or hand him off to one of the Medusan back-country tribes to clean the latrines for 50 years.

stewart wrote:
------------------

Oh, please, be nice. 6 month at Gryphons North pole in Southern Summer and 6 months at Gryphons South pole during Northern Summer. Just so he can have a change of climate.

-- Stewart

And you call that being nice? Either you're Hannibal Lecterous or you're fond of sarcasm.

stewart wrote:quote="JeffEngel"]

saber964 wrote:Well considering that Michael Janvier is doing a nice stretch in prison.

I'm sure Manticore can install him somewhere perfectly unpleasant without that much effort. Possibly a nice camp at one of Grymphon's poles. Or hand him off to one of the Medusan back-country tribes to clean the latrines for 50 years.

------------------

Oh, please, be nice. 6 month at Gryphons North pole in Southern Summer and 6 months at Gryphons South pole during Northern Summer. Just so he can have a change of climate.

-- Stewart[/quote]


Why do that if you want freeze his ass send him to Sphinx remember it year is 5.25 years long.

saber964 wrote:"stewart"]"JeffEngel"]"saber964"]Well considering that Michael Janvier is doing a nice stretch in prison.

I'm sure Manticore can install him somewhere perfectly unpleasant without that much effort. Possibly a nice camp at one of Grymphon's poles. Or hand him off to one of the Medusan back-country tribes to clean the latrines for 50 years.

[/quote]


------------------

Oh, please, be nice. 6 month at Gryphons North pole in Southern Summer and 6 months at Gryphons South pole during Northern Summer. Just so he can have a change of climate.

-- Stewart[/quote]


Why do that if you want freeze his ass send him to Sphinx remember it year is 5.25 years long.[/quote]

-----------------

Maybe a rotation program -- Gryphon's North pole, Gryphon's South pole, Sphinx (anywhere for the winter), and maybe an exchange program to Camp Inferno..... and THEN to the Medusan outback.

-- Stewart

Sphinx and Gryphon are nice places for a prison, but what do you think about a lovely Prison on San Martin? Every Prisoner with the exception of San MArtinos will "Love" the gravity there!

Maldorian wrote:Sphinx and Gryphon are nice places for a prison, but what do you think about a lovely Prison on San Martin? Every Prisoner with the exception of San MArtinos will "Love" the gravity there!

"How 'bout we build the prison downslope, where the air is thicker."

"Don't you mean 'more toxic?'"

"Whatever, after the first couple escapes, we shouldn't have any problem."

cthia wrote:Borrowed this idea from my last post in the Humor thread.

Elvis Santino and Pavel Young are the first duo inductees to the newly formed Hall of Shame.

I realized that there may be many more but let us not limit it to just those that we as readers consider, but also those that officers, Queens, Protectors and officers themselves might consider. Theisman being an example of the latter - -- being that he might nominate himself to the Hall of Shame considering his loose participation in the atrocities visited upon the prisoners of Blackbird.

Any other nominees I might have missed?

One should remember that Mr. Weber has created the character of the people in these stories. Therefore, we are nominating on the basis of actions he has described and not on general character.

cthia wrote:Borrowed this idea from my last post in the Humor thread.

Elvis Santino and Pavel Young are the first duo inductees to the newly formed Hall of Shame.

I realized that there may be many more but let us not limit it to just those that we as readers consider, but also those that officers, Queens, Protectors and officers themselves might consider. Theisman being an example of the latter - -- being that he might nominate himself to the Hall of Shame considering his loose participation in the atrocities visited upon the prisoners of Blackbird.

Any other nominees I might have missed?

SciFi90 wrote:One should remember that Mr. Weber has created the character of the people in these stories. Therefore, we are nominating on the basis of actions he has described and not on general character.

How is that any different from real life? Even in real life, oftentimes, some 'unintended' author writes our script and drives our actions...

Oftentimes, we are shamed by those actions - which don't always bear reflection of our real character inside -- being merely caught up in the moment, or off-guard and unawares, peer pressure, circumstance, ignorance and even deceit... ... ... but our shame is still very real. Deserved or no.

Of course, there are some nominees who suffer shame at the very core - in their general character - on both sides of the fictional fence.

saber964 wrote:Well considering that Michael Janvier is doing a nice stretch in prison.

I've asked this before. Do you think he went to Club Fed e.g. Picketwood Minimum Security Prison. Or did the Empress have a quiet word with the Minister of Justice and he was sent a maximum security prison e.g. Alcatraz Orbital Prison in the Unicorn Belt.

I hope he was put into an orange reflective vest and made to pick up roadside litter outside of Harrington House.

RedBaron wrote:What about Rajampet? Or Crandall?

Agreed. Especially Crandall. The woman took it upon herself to kickstart an interstellar war that she had to know would get millions of solarians killed. Even if she had been correct her delusional thoughts that Manticoran ships were using the same weapons and tactics of the last century like the sollies, she knew the manties had hundreds of wallers. In a 1 for 1 exchange the sollies would lose almost two million people to destroy Manticore's wall of battle, that is not even considering the screening elements and raiders.