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Re: US Presidential Candidates
Post by Senior Chief   » Wed Feb 03, 2016 2:24 pm

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I dislike politics mainly because I do not think we have one truly honest ethical politican in any one party. Just my opinion. Found some good quotes.

"An honest politician is one who, when he is bought, will stay bought."

“Politically, Republicans and Democrats are at opposite ends. One’s a burp and the other’s a fart.”


“Nine out of ten politicians are thieves. The tenth politician is a liar, and the one who conducted the survey.”

He knows nothing; and he thinks he knows everything. That points clearly to a political career.”

“I once saw a snake having sex with a vulture, and I thought, It’s just business as usual in Washington DC.”

One of the reasons people hate politics is that truth is rarely a politician's objective. Election and power are.
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Re: US Presidential Candidates
Post by Starsaber   » Wed Feb 03, 2016 2:25 pm

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thinkstoomuch wrote:
Bruno Behrends wrote:Are you trying to insinuate Clinton had minions in 6 precincts who somehow cheated with the coin flips? And that with no one noticing?

Or if you aren't trying to insinuate such a thing - why did you write the above paragraph? Why? Really - the wording makes me wonder about your motives.

Btw: Sanders won 5 of the 6 reported coin flips.

And there were more coin flips than 6 - but only 7 (EDIT: 6) are reported because those precincts used a Microsoft reporting app that includes this info. Among the precincts that instead used traditional phone line reporting there is no report about the number of cases coins had to be flipped.


Do you have a link for the coin flip counts Bruno?

Not saying anything one way or the other but ...

http://www.bbc.com/news/magazine-35473068

Seems to say differently. Rather far from the source but. Just curious. And ran across it after reading your post.

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Here's the article I saw about the coin flips and it seems to be more along the lines of what Bruno saw..

http://www.cnn.com/2016/02/02/politics/ ... index.html
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Re: US Presidential Candidates
Post by gcomeau   » Wed Feb 03, 2016 3:07 pm

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The coin flips are irrelevant, they had no impact on the final result. They weren't for delegates to the national convention... the ones that actually determine who the nominee is. They were for a different kind of much lower level delegate of which thousands were chosen during the caucuses.

The handful picked with coin flips had no bearing on the final outcome.
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Re: US Presidential Candidates
Post by gcomeau   » Wed Feb 03, 2016 3:07 pm

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Senior Chief wrote:I dislike politics mainly because I do not think we have one truly honest ethical politican in any one party.


Sanders is probably the closest you will ever find...
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Re: US Presidential Candidates
Post by biochem   » Thu Feb 04, 2016 10:20 am

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gcomeau wrote:
Senior Chief wrote:I dislike politics mainly because I do not think we have one truly honest ethical politican in any one party.


Sanders is probably the closest you will ever find...


I'll actually agree with you on that. I don't agree with his policy positions but he does appear to be that rare bird, an honest politician.
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Re: US Presidential Candidates
Post by Tenshinai   » Thu Feb 04, 2016 2:48 pm

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biochem wrote:
With Cruz 28%, Trump 24% and Rubio 23%. It looks pretty close to a Trump/Rubio tie for 2nd to me. Also not good news for Trump.


Re Clinton/Sanders, well it wouldn't be a Clinton election without some sort of scandal. The latest appears to be magic coins. Apparently 6 precincts had an exact tie, Hilary won the coin flip in all 6. (probability of random chance being 1 in 64, so in the realm of possible but extremely unlikely).


The one thing to remember about probability is that "ridiculously low" does not equate to "does not happen".

In a game i once rolled 14 6s on a D6 in a row, a die i later checked and found no abnormalities with(and i was not trying to any kind of "special" dierolls either).
The chance for that is something like 1 in several hundred billion, and it still happened, much to the horror of my brother and his girlfriend at the time.

Even if the 6/6 50% chance are true, that is absolutely nothing astounding.

Sanders is probably the closest you will ever find...




I'll actually agree with you on that. I don't agree with his policy positions but he does appear to be that rare bird, an honest politician.


Which means he will probably lose. :twisted:
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Re: US Presidential Candidates
Post by gcomeau   » Thu Feb 04, 2016 3:03 pm

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Tenshinai wrote:The one thing to remember about probability is that "ridiculously low" does not equate to "does not happen".

In a game i once rolled 14 6s on a D6 in a row, a die i later checked and found no abnormalities with(and i was not trying to any kind of "special" dierolls either).
The chance for that is something like 1 in several hundred billion,


1:78,364,164,096.

;)
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Re: US Presidential Candidates
Post by Tenshinai   » Fri Feb 05, 2016 6:23 pm

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gcomeau wrote:
Tenshinai wrote:The one thing to remember about probability is that "ridiculously low" does not equate to "does not happen".

In a game i once rolled 14 6s on a D6 in a row, a die i later checked and found no abnormalities with(and i was not trying to any kind of "special" dierolls either).
The chance for that is something like 1 in several hundred billion,


1:78,364,164,096.

;)


Oh right, i accidentally read it as 783G rather than 78G.
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Re: US Presidential Candidates
Post by thinkstoomuch   » Tue Feb 09, 2016 7:20 am

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This is an interesting article on Hillary Clinton.

http://www.bbc.com/news/election-us-2016-35526459

Not a problem my limited imagination envisioned.

T2M
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Re: US Presidential Candidates
Post by biochem   » Tue Feb 09, 2016 9:22 am

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thinkstoomuch wrote:This is an interesting article on Hillary Clinton.

http://www.bbc.com/news/election-us-2016-35526459

Not a problem my limited imagination envisioned.

T2M



A year ago I would never have imagined it either. I've heard a lot of commentators call it the Bill Cosby effect.
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