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Re: What if... (A Trekkie/ HH Fan's mad baseless Speculation
Post by cthia   » Sun Jan 31, 2016 9:08 am

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If the two worlds were ever to collide, you have to take the good (implications) with the bad (implications). Which means you have to be open to the fact that Honor Harrington may eventually end up a one-eyed Borg. With an assimilated Salamander all of the Honorverse and the Federation will become automatrons -- even RFC wouldn't be able to resist automation then.

Unless Harkness can defeat the Borg by injecting an all powerful virus with his minicomp.

A very simple virus that accomplishes one thing. To reverse all assimilations and wipe all of the memories of the Borg collective. A low level subroutine that frightens them all:
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or if it's to be done in the honor of the Queen with any hopes to save an assimilated Salamander...
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Re: What if... (A Trekkie/ HH Fan's mad baseless Speculation
Post by munroburton   » Sun Jan 31, 2016 12:10 pm

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cthia wrote:If the two worlds were ever to collide, you have to take the good (implications) with the bad (implications). Which means you have to be open to the fact that Honor Harrington may eventually end up a one-eyed Borg. With an assimilated Salamander all of the Honorverse and the Federation will become automatrons -- even RFC wouldn't be able to resist automation then.

Unless Harkness can defeat the Borg by injecting an all powerful virus with his minicomp.


Technically, Honor Harrington is an one-eyed (cy)Borg and has been since after her WIA downtime after HotQ. The cyborgification continued after she got captured and escaped minus an arm.

There's textev of a couple of places in the Honorverse where people replace as much of their original body as possible with cybernetic upgrades.

As for neutralising an assimilated Honor Harrington - I think the answer lies in the MAlign's bag of tricks. They are the Honorverse's specialists in nanotechnology after all.
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Re: What if... (A Trekkie/ HH Fan's mad baseless Speculation
Post by cthia   » Sun Jan 31, 2016 1:07 pm

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munroburton wrote:
cthia wrote:If the two worlds were ever to collide, you have to take the good (implications) with the bad (implications). Which means you have to be open to the fact that Honor Harrington may eventually end up a one-eyed Borg. With an assimilated Salamander all of the Honorverse and the Federation will become automatrons -- even RFC wouldn't be able to resist automation then.

Unless Harkness can defeat the Borg by injecting an all powerful virus with his minicomp.


Technically, Honor Harrington is an one-eyed (cy)Borg and has been since after her WIA downtime after HotQ. The cyborgification continued after she got captured and escaped minus an arm.

There's textev of a couple of places in the Honorverse where people replace as much of their original body as possible with cybernetic upgrades.

As for neutralising an assimilated Honor Harrington - I think the answer lies in the MAlign's bag of tricks. They are the Honorverse's specialists in nanotechnology after all.

Not quite. She isn't part of the collective. She isn't a Borg by Borg standards because she is missing the most important augmentation -- the implant of the cortical node behind the right eye. I grant that it may be an easier process for her -- since some groundwork has already been laid.

It does invite a gedanken, as to just what the assimilation of Honor would mean to Nimitz or their connection.

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Re: What if... (A Trekkie/ HH Fan's mad baseless Speculation
Post by Grashtel   » Sun Jan 31, 2016 3:58 pm

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cthia wrote:I wonder if the Borg would assimilate treecats.

I am quite sure that the Borg would try
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Re: What if... (A Trekkie/ HH Fan's mad baseless Speculation
Post by Brigade XO   » Sun Jan 31, 2016 8:15 pm

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Wonder what would happen if a single Borg attempted to assimilate a Treecat.
That is assuming the Borg got close enough and rendered the Treecat unable to defend itself and then did the implant.
You are familure with the mindset of your average Treecat- there are only two kinds of enemy: those you are going to killl and those who have already been dealt with. A species who are functionally telepathic already with a highly developed sense of who they are.

I get the image of the Treecat of trying to do a teleparthic equivalent of ripping the throat out of the Borg. At the very least, the Borg is in for one hell of a headache and God help it if the Treecat gets out of restraint. :)
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Re: What if... (A Trekkie/ HH Fan's mad baseless Speculation
Post by Dauntless   » Mon Feb 01, 2016 10:29 am

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yes, assimilating treecats would not be easy and the consequences if they do do not bode well for the queen.
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Re: What if... (A Trekkie/ HH Fan's mad baseless Speculation
Post by cthia   » Tue Feb 02, 2016 2:42 am

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Dauntless wrote:yes, assimilating treecats would not be easy and the consequences if they do do not bode well for the queen.

But if they're successful, the consequences won't bode well for humanity. Can you imagine Borg controlled treecats attacking at the will of the hive protected by an adaptable shield? Or treecats signing...

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Re: What if... (A Trekkie/ HH Fan's mad baseless Speculation
Post by The E   » Tue Feb 02, 2016 11:14 am

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Except that Telepathy isn't exactly a rare thing in the Star Trek universe. In all their on-screen appearances, the borg never showed any particular interest in acquiring more of it; In fact, until Voyager acquired a bunch of tech from the future, they weren't even particularly interested in actually upgrading their technology since they already surpassed all of the easy targets in their range (and the ones they didn't surpass all belong to the realm of the weakly or strongly godlike).
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Re: What if... (A Trekkie/ HH Fan's mad baseless Speculation
Post by dscott8   » Tue Feb 02, 2016 2:18 pm

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The first time the Borg Collective's hive mind came in contact with a treecat, the Borg would run like hell.
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Re: What if... (A Trekkie/ HH Fan's mad baseless Speculation
Post by cthia   » Tue Feb 02, 2016 2:19 pm

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The E wrote:Except that Telepathy isn't exactly a rare thing in the Star Trek universe. In all their on-screen appearances, the borg never showed any particular interest in acquiring more of it; In fact, until Voyager acquired a bunch of tech from the future, they weren't even particularly interested in actually upgrading their technology since they already surpassed all of the easy targets in their range (and the ones they didn't surpass all belong to the realm of the weakly or strongly godlike).

Granted.

Except, during the end, the Borg began to show human-like strategy. It manifested itself with the specific assimilation and reprogramming of Locutus - Picard. The Borg realized that if they had the premiere tactician of Star Fleet under its control, then the conquest of Federation space would soon follow. They were a human hair away from success.

The Borg could adopt a similar strategy in regards to the treecats. The Honorverse's premiere tactician is bonded. Their second, arguably, greatest tactician, White Haven is bonded. The Manticoran Queen herself is bonded. Control over treecats and the resulting handicapping or ensuing death of their human bonds could be a well considered and successful Borg strategy.

They just may think that assimilation of treecats, and the inevitable paralyzing or death of Honor and others may be a worthwhile strategy. The Borg Queen thinks like humans.

Queen to Queen - if the Borg Queen strikes first at the very heart of Elizabeth, Ariel, Elizabeth could become unglued and the Soul of Steel may become malleable.

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