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by Expert snuggler » Wed Jan 13, 2016 4:08 pm | |
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Even with their choice of timing and advance preparation there would be inevitable high risk.
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by wkernochan » Wed Jan 13, 2016 10:37 pm | |
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This brings up something I have always wondered about. Remember when the leader of the Reform movement (my memory fails me badly here) is killed? It's in a duel with a Temple Guard whom he has, I believe, trained. That Temple Guard kills him rather than wounding him and leaving him available for torture, and it is surprising that the Guard is a better swordsman. It sounds more like the Temple Guardsman is actually doing the leader a favor. He is then made the head of the Temple Guards.
Is it possible that the head of the Temple Guards is a sleeper agent for the Reform movement? Is it possible that he will back Duchairn at the critical moment, given that the leader challenged Duchairn to become a Reformer just before the leader died? |
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by dobriennm » Wed Jan 13, 2016 11:26 pm | |
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There's been a lot of speculation that Maj. Phandry is a double agent (and he is not the head of the Temple Guard, just of Duchairn's bodyguards) |
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by DDHvi » Thu Jan 14, 2016 12:01 am | |
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I once read that in the US civil war, a sniper with a heavy rifle (I think a Sharps), extra powder, and much preparation managed to kill a general at close to two miles range. In something like this, there is always an element of chance: he fired when the tent door was opened - by an aide - but the general was right behind the aide. Douglas Hvistendahl
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by lyonheart » Thu Jan 14, 2016 12:10 am | |
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Hi Wkernochan,
Welcome to the forums, please enjoy your favorite simulated beverage on the simulated forums. I'm afraid you've confused Hauwerd with Samyl Wylsynn as the leader of the Circle, and while then Captain Phandys killed Hauwerd, he was promoted to Major and heads Duchairn's bodyguard, not the whole Temple Guard. So your premise has a major fault I'm afraid. Other than that... L
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by lyonheart » Thu Jan 14, 2016 6:59 am | |
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Hi DDHvi,
Waiting for the general's tent door to open? At two miles? This sounds rather fanciful at best; more detail is certainly required before spreading this whopper. In all the hundreds of books on the American Civil War I've read, I've never come across anything even close to this. Now the experienced Union general John Sedgwick [West Point class of '37] was shot in hie left cheek May 9,1864 {Battle of Spotsylvania] at a range of 800 yards after telling the soldier in front of him who had ducked down "they couldn't hit an elephant at this range", who then stood, saluted and responded that he had dodged a cannonball that would have taken his head off, so he believed in dodging; the general replied "all right my man, go to your place" [on the ground] being hit just seconds later. He was mourned all who knew him, including his good friend Robert E. Lee. I know veterans who used to salute stupid officers in field exercises (who insisted on being saluted everywhere) "Sniper Check, Sir!" until they began to see the light. L
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by lyonheart » Thu Jan 14, 2016 7:06 am | |
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Hi Keith_W,
Excellent point! There are only 4-5 Ice Boats, and if they could carry 100 tons of cargo, they might carry several hundred men, or 10-12 trips each, or taking 4-5 5days to deliver the whole force, far too slow unless Duchairn had already seized control of the temple and city of Zion. L
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by lyonheart » Thu Jan 14, 2016 7:25 am | |
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Hi Don,
I expect the Scout-Snipers to have first call on the smokeless powder for the two obvious reasons of the near 50% increase in power and velocity cited in LaMA and the reduced gun smoke giving away their positions. How soon we'll see this in textev is another question. The sniper rifles of the Corisande campaign were good for ~600+ yards, and the Mahndrayn improved on that, while the M96 with the black powder round Howsmyn held in his hand in LaMA was accurate out to 900 yards apparently, though I'd expect sniper scopes to be required at that range, which ought to be quite possible for Charis. If the M96 is of near Mauser/Enfield/Springfield quality as its description implies, then further extended sniper ranges with smokeless powder are quite possible. Knowing RFC's preference for pungent puns and historic references, I expect we'll soon see a Safehold version of Sedgwick's famous non-last words. The temple boys reaction to this, especially their officers ought to be delicious. L
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by lyonheart » Thu Jan 14, 2016 7:40 am | |
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Hi Jeff Engel,
Quite right. Given how the circle was betrayed by a member who lost his soul and courage after years in it, and the fact that Duchairn hasn't had 20 years to watch all his lieutenants who are critical to his coup, it could easily fall short again; as most plots do in RFC's universes, kinda like real life. Now, given the fact that Clyntahn hasn't had a hint of what Duchairn's been up to for the past couple of years is a good sign, especially given how closely he's watched; but a few more clues [other than his thoughts] would be appreciated. Given the revelations of HFQ, we may see some kind of contact between Rhobair and Nynian in the next book, ie Nynian's FoG may have been mentioned in Hauwerd's note; so suggestions for the next title are now open. L
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by n7axw » Thu Jan 14, 2016 9:29 am | |
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Hi Lyonheart, Those muzzle loaders in Corisande were actually capable of the thousand yards according to the textev. Remember that scene on the aftermath of Haryl's crossing where Charisian snipers were climbing up the mountainside to get a shot at the defenders. Gahrvai almost gets shot twice while on his excursion to the front lines. The thousand yard figure is included there, iirc, as a part of Gahrvai's ruminations. In actuality, it seems a bit long. I've never tried it, but at a thousand yards, a human being would be pretty tiny, especially without a scope. Don - [/quote] When any group seeks political power in God's name, both religion and politics are instantly corrupted.
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