Is Safehold shades of monochrome?

MWW better get busy with the sequel, I'm starting to ask too many questions.

OK, from name usages, we appear to have a developed population with Euro-American, Spanish/Italian, China and Japan. There have been some references to the eye (Epicanthic) fold/slant (I think) but nothing touching other body differentiations. A time in centuries is far too small to 'homogenize' the multiple types that we have in our current world. Where are the Melanesians, AmerIndians, Asian Indians, Africans and so on?

Next: Where/how did Harchow develop like ancient Chin? I mean with those style of nobility names and the other 'characteristics'? Unless these were deliberately seeded by Langford et.al., the development from mind-wiped colonists is illogical, no? And if done deliberately, why?

If Anthropology were to develop naturally on Safehold - wow, what a pain! Same for Philology as well.

Pretty sure that each settlement was overseen by an archangel or angel in which case they would have guided them and given them inspiration.

As for the nobility etc I suspect that was established after or during the war to give rewards for service and then gradually spread/or was adopted by other lands.

On Harchow, David Weber has said that the "China lobby" on Earth wanted Safehold to have a Chinese region.

Langhorne "kept his word" on that but not how they would have expected.

As for "races" on Safehold, in his fiction David Weber doesn't make a big deal about race.

Some people reading the Honor novels didn't catch that Honor's friend Mike is Black.

Charybdis wrote:MWW better get busy with the sequel, I'm starting to ask too many questions.

OK, from name usages, we appear to have a developed population with Euro-American, Spanish/Italian, China and Japan. There have been some references to the eye (Epicanthic) fold/slant (I think) but nothing touching other body differentiations. A time in centuries is far too small to 'homogenize' the multiple types that we have in our current world. Where are the Melanesians, AmerIndians, Asian Indians, Africans and so on?

Next: Where/how did Harchow develop like ancient Chin? I mean with those style of nobility names and the other 'characteristics'? Unless these were deliberately seeded by Langford et.al., the development from mind-wiped colonists is illogical, no? And if done deliberately, why?

If Anthropology were to develop naturally on Safehold - wow, what a pain! Same for Philology as well.

Alvarez mentions (in the privacy of his own thoughts) that his first noble ancestors were ennobled by the Archangels themselves. Which would suggest that the mainland aristocracy was created by the Command Crew.

Siddarmark being a republic could just be a result of the "angels" in charge of the area preferring a republic over some medieval fantasy kingdom setup.

Of course, the idea that the Nobility was established by the Archangels may be a myth that the Nobility (and commoners) believe.

IE, it's not in the Writ or the Testimonies.

evilauthor wrote:Alvarez mentions (in the privacy of his own thoughts) that his first noble ancestors were ennobled by the Archangels themselves. Which would suggest that the mainland aristocracy was created by the Command Crew.

Siddarmark being a republic could just be a result of the "angels" in charge of the area preferring a republic over some medieval fantasy kingdom setup.

DrakBibliophile wrote:Of course, the idea that the Nobility was established by the Archangels may be a myth that the Nobility (and commoners) believe.

IE, it's not in the Writ or the Testimonies.

evilauthor wrote:Alvarez mentions (in the privacy of his own thoughts) that his first noble ancestors were ennobled by the Archangels themselves. Which would suggest that the mainland aristocracy was created by the Command Crew.

Siddarmark being a republic could just be a result of the "angels" in charge of the area preferring a republic over some medieval fantasy kingdom setup.

I believe it. I think it squares with the notion that SOME "angels" liked to play God.

DrakBibliophile wrote:On Harchow, David Weber has said that the "China lobby" on Earth wanted Safehold to have a Chinese region.

Langhorne "kept his word" on that but not how they would have expected.

As for "races" on Safehold, in his fiction David Weber doesn't make a big deal about race.

Some people reading the Honor novels didn't catch that Honor's friend Mike is Black.

I don't know about MWW being totally low-key on race in the Honorverse. It seems pretty emphatic that the Winton Royals are BLACK and proud of it which includes royal cousin Michelle (Mike). What I LIKE is that it is only descriptive and only moving the story for a universe where it is genetic slavery that matters.

I believe Ahlvarez's accounting also.

That opens another theological argument against the Books of Schueler and Chihiro. God created all Adams and Eves equal and at the same time. None of God's creation had precedence over another. The Archangels created inequality where God in His infinite wisdom did not.

God gave Langhorn the Writ in its infallible form. The Archangels that survived Langhorn changed God's infallible Writ to the degree that it calls for ignoring God's original words He inspired in Langhorn.

If the original Writ is infallible, it would have held recourse for Shan-wei's Fall. Since no provision existed in the original Writ for schism and a rift in the body of the Church beyond the Book of Jwo-jeng, it follows that either God is not Omniscient or the Archangels corrupted God's perfection by adding those two books.

Assuming that's the CoC's theological argument, it holds water. That is if there is historical evidence available to support this contention.

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DrakBibliophile wrote:Of course, the idea that the Nobility was established by the Archangels may be a myth that the Nobility (and commoners) believe.

IE, it's not in the Writ or the Testimonies.

I believe it. I think it squares with the notion that SOME "angels" liked to play God.

My reading of the books is that most of the population are some sort of ambiguously light brown colour with dark hair and a medeterranean/levant complexion. Some are paler such as Sharleanne but then her hair description is classic oriential (straight and black). Those who have a classically european look such as the Wilson intendent on Charis are specifically called out for being unusual.

Silverwall wrote:My reading of the books is that most of the population are some sort of ambiguously light brown colour with dark hair and a medeterranean/levant complexion. Some are paler such as Sharleanne but then her hair description is classic oriential (straight and black). Those who have a classically european look such as the Wilson intendent on Charis are specifically called out for being unusual.

The people with paler skins also tend to come from latitudes that get weaker sunlight.