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Re: Honorverse Hall of Shame
Post by Relax   » Sun Nov 15, 2015 6:57 pm

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Admiral Kuzak. Can't even roll pods. A tactic the RMN has been using for the last 15 years.... :roll:

2nd place, MWW's "control links"
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Re: Honorverse Hall of Shame
Post by cthia   » Sun Nov 15, 2015 7:42 pm

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Relax wrote:Admiral Kuzak. Can't even roll pods. A tactic the RMN has been using for the last 15 years.... :roll:

2nd place, MWW's "control links"

:lol: :lol: :lol:

Damn funny Relax. Funny two-fold. Funny because I can't help but think that perhaps kuzak should be absolved for any blame. After all she was on crack.

Sorry but that's never going to cease being funny to me. Farting funny! Don't blame me, blame kzt, it was his revelation.

What?, farting funny isn't self-explanatory? - when you laugh so hard you pass gas out of your rhyming orifice? :lol: :lol: :lol:

"Uh oh... oops" :oops:

MWW's control links are fine. They're just highly classified. So highly they go over everyone's head. lol


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Tourville and Foraker were both distressingly ashamed of the way Honor was treated as a captive by Cordelia Ransom while aboard Tepes and their total impotence in preventing any further humiliation. Especially after how well she saw to it that Peep prisoners were treated aboard her ship.

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Re: Honorverse Hall of Shame
Post by cthia   » Sun Nov 15, 2015 7:56 pm

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Now that I think about it, I have to nominate that copper-plated Cordelia Ransom. The way she treated Honor and Nimitz -- in lieu of how Peeps were treated is appallingly shameful.

The shame is highly acerbated IMO, by what was specifically left out of textev by RFC (rightly so) but which spoke volumes between the lines -- which was Honor's sexual abuse. It hung in the air like the London fog.

Did anyone else feel that, or was it just my intense bond with Honor?

Son, your mother says I have to hang you. Personally I don't think this is a capital offense. But if I don't hang you, she's gonna hang me and frankly, I'm not the one in trouble. —cthia's father. Incident in ? Axiom of Common Sense
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Re: Honorverse Hall of Shame
Post by dscott8   » Sun Nov 15, 2015 10:02 pm

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Ladies and gentlemen, I would like to nominate a true statesman, a man who was willing, for the sake of his own career, to stab his own country in the back, lie himself blue in the face, and shaft his own partner in crime. I give you the Secretary of State for the Republic of Haven -- Arnold Giancola!
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Re: Honorverse Hall of Shame
Post by MobiusCipher   » Sun Nov 15, 2015 10:36 pm

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I would say anyone in the Mesan Alignment involved in Houdini, specifically, anyone who helped set up and detonate all those nukes that went off in the final stages of it.

Oh, also, anyone in the Manticoran, Grayson, or Andermani aristocracies/royal families. It is a despicable thing to call oneself superior to other people and claim the right to rule them simply because of one's birth. I guess I'll give Honor an exemption, since she earned her titles through merit, rather than inheriting them. Also, Berry's exempt because she got confirmed by a plebiscite, a democratic process, but any children she ends up having are not exempt.
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Re: Honorverse Hall of Shame
Post by Fox2!   » Mon Nov 16, 2015 4:54 am

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BobfromSydney wrote:Does "doing the honourable thing" absolve Janacek from inclusion in the Hall of Shame?

No. If he had not done the "honorable thing," he would have been shot.
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Re: Honorverse Hall of Shame
Post by Fox2!   » Mon Nov 16, 2015 4:58 am

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cthia wrote:Borrowed this idea from my last post in the Humor thread.
Elvis Santino and Pavel Young are the first duo inductees to the newly formed Hall of Shame.


Any other nominees I might have missed?


Pavel Young's father. And brother.

And Sonja, for not having the courage to convict Pavel Young of his actual crimes, and putting him in front of a firing squad.
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Re: Honorverse Hall of Shame
Post by George J. Smith   » Mon Nov 16, 2015 6:09 am

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Reginald Houseman has to be included due to his shameful and cowardly actions on Grayson in HotQ.
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Re: Honorverse Hall of Shame
Post by cthia   » Mon Nov 16, 2015 7:16 am

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George J. Smith wrote:Reginald Houseman has to be included due to his shameful and cowardly actions on Grayson in HotQ.

For sure.

And every Manticoran around was ashamed of him.

But I'm not sure he was more ashamed or more afraid of the thrashing Honor finally gave him -- crabbing away in fear on his backside. No, scratch that. He was certainly overcome with fear then. Afterwards on Manticore amidst the cloakroom gossip came the shame.


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Every Grayson present was ashamed of Solomon Marchant when he called Honor a harlot in public (and on a loudspeaker :o ), especially when she was so vulnerable -- still showing pain and choking back tears from the loss of Paul. That was really rather low of Marchant to aim for her heart -- he wanted to hurt her badly. The Grayson's shame turned to anger. I personally think it was a defense mechanism -- shocked at Marchant's unprecedented treatment of a woman in public sense the purging of the Masadans. And directed at someone who had risked her life and that of her crew fighting their fight and saving their bacon to boot.

I nominate, Solomon Marchant.

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Re: Honorverse Hall of Shame
Post by cthia   » Mon Nov 16, 2015 10:50 am

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Everyone who thought Horace Harkness had actually defected must have been mightily ashamed of themselves. Relieved, but ashamed. "How could we have "thunk" that Harkness had defected? Sir Horace? We should've seen that one coming over a parsec away!"

And they should've. Myself included.

Can't you just imagine Harkness looking into everyone's relieved eyes afterwards and fighting back a giggle? Especially Tremaine, who wanted to kiss him!

Son, your mother says I have to hang you. Personally I don't think this is a capital offense. But if I don't hang you, she's gonna hang me and frankly, I'm not the one in trouble. —cthia's father. Incident in ? Axiom of Common Sense
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