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Re: Missing Armies
Post by JeffEngel   » Fri Nov 06, 2015 6:46 pm

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n7axw wrote:Silkiah's construction is designated to the Temple, probably for use by the MHOG.

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Clyntahn would probably rather Dohlar not even keep its own rifles, much less get any from anyone else!

Having a similar distrust for Siddarmark led to throwing them into Charis' arms. Not every bit of the precedent may apply in Dohlar's case, but enough just might.
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Re: Missing Armies
Post by n7axw   » Fri Nov 06, 2015 10:12 pm

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JeffEngel wrote:
n7axw wrote:Silkiah's construction is designated to the Temple, probably for use by the MHOG.

Don

Clyntahn would probably rather Dohlar not even keep its own rifles, much less get any from anyone else!

Having a similar distrust for Siddarmark led to throwing them into Charis' arms. Not every bit of the precedent may apply in Dohlar's case, but enough just might.


Clynyahn is the EOC's most faithful ally and seems to be getting better at it all the time....

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Re: Missing Armies
Post by isaac_newton   » Sat Nov 07, 2015 9:48 am

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n7axw wrote:
blackjack217 wrote:To get back to the original topic the reason we haven't seen any forces from Sodar and Delferahk is twofold. First of all, these nations are fairly poor with little manufacturing capability, so their ability to properly equip forces is limited. Second, there are immense logistical issues in moving large numbers of Delferakian or Sodarian troops all the way to Siddermark by land. Furthermore, even if it was possible, it would take forever and cost a lot of money to feed them during their months long journey. As for Silkah, presumably they are either forming their own army to support Dolhar, or sending their rifle production to the Dolharians, who currently kinda need all the rifles they can get their hands on.


Silkiah's construction is designated to the Temple, probably for use by the MHOG.

Don


Thinking about this - I just don't see Desnair [in the original time at least] letting those scrubby riff-raff and horse thieves from Delferhak and Sodar pass through Desnair, causing who knows what damage en route, and detracting from the glory of the Desnarian army [and also reducing available loot]. In those days I'm sure that the Emperor would have assured the gang of four that they would be a 'positive hindrance and really, really not needed'! Probably also true of Harchong, come to think of it. [Edit]Harchongs thinking about Sodar - that is[/edit]
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Re: Missing Armies
Post by C. O. Thompson   » Sat Nov 07, 2015 12:25 pm

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JeffEngel wrote:
n7axw wrote:Silkiah's construction is designated to the Temple, probably for use by the MHOG.

Don

Clyntahn would probably rather Dohlar not even keep its own rifles, much less get any from anyone else!

Having a similar distrust for Siddarmark led to throwing them into Charis' arms. Not every bit of the precedent may apply in Dohlar's case, but enough just might.


I predict the conversation at the end of HFQ will lead to a significantly greater gap between Dohlar and Clynthan.
Humm what do you think would happen if Thrisk made a public denunciation of the Inquisition and then suffered a fatal stroke?
Just my 2 ₡ worth
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Re: Missing Armies
Post by JeffEngel   » Sat Nov 07, 2015 12:31 pm

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C. O. Thompson wrote:I predict the conversation at the end of HFQ will lead to a significantly greater gap between Dohlar and Clynthan.
Humm what do you think would happen if Thrisk made a public denunciation of the Inquisition and then suffered a fatal stroke?

It'd be hailed as divine justice for a secret heretic.
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Re: Missing Armies
Post by CJK   » Sat Nov 07, 2015 1:40 pm

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The Sword of Schueler attack basically left Sodar and Delferhak unable to get to Siddarmark in time, especially given how there was a significant emphasis on hitting Siddarmark fast. One counter argument is that Harchong is just as far away yet they were still expected to send the largest army of the lot at the start of the land war.

Perhaps the question to ask ourselves is why hasn't there been any pressure from Clyntahn NOW to get Sodar and Delferhak moving troops. Clyntahn wont care that they have no chance and will probably die, or how long the march may take. Getting more bodies into the field could help especially if it pulls strength away from facing the HoGaA. Besides any weapons they DO have have been paid for by the CoGA so may as well get some use out of them.

Thirsk getting a fatal stroke would be divine retribution for heresy, right up to the point he appears in Charis at which point its Shan-wei demonic influence.
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Re: Missing Armies
Post by C. O. Thompson   » Sat Nov 07, 2015 3:32 pm

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JeffEngel wrote:
C. O. Thompson wrote:I predict the conversation at the end of HFQ will lead to a significantly greater gap between Dohlar and Clynthan.
Humm what do you think would happen if Thrisk made a public denunciation of the Inquisition and then suffered a fatal stroke?

It'd be hailed as divine justice for a secret heretic.


OK Jeff,

There is that... so what if he gave a ringing public endorsement and asked archangels to give him strength to take the battle to the true armies of God and then had the stroke :?

Or maybe not :oops:
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Re: Missing Armies
Post by ayg   » Sat Nov 07, 2015 9:12 pm

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No. If that happened it would be Shan-wei killing the most effective threat to her evil plots, before he had the chance to strike her forces down. He'd be an instant martyr.

C. O. Thompson wrote: so what if he gave a ringing public endorsement and asked archangels to give him strength to take the battle to the true armies of God and then had the stroke :?

Or maybe not :oops:
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Re: Missing Armies
Post by StealthSeeker   » Sun Nov 08, 2015 1:34 am

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Someone in another post said that Silkiah was a mostly disarmed DMZ between Siddarmark and the Desnarian Empire. But posts here also say that they are producing arms for the CoGA. If they are producing those arms they must be getting them to the CoGA via the Gulf of Dohlar or through Dohlar itself as their path going any other way is cut off.

But if Silkia is still producing war material for the CoGA because it can ship via the Gulf of Dohlar (if they manage to doge Charisian ships) Then the Desnarian Empire can ship stuff the same way. So why has the destruction of Desnarian cities on it's east coast prevented it from continuing to supply arms via the Gulf?

The Desnarian Empire is definitely trying to pull out of this war with as little damage as possible.
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