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What is in a name? as used by PICA's

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Re: What is in a name? as used by PICA's
Post by Keith_w   » Fri Oct 30, 2015 6:51 am

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jchilds wrote:So does that make him the Demon Murphai then?


No, Demon Murphai has an entirely separate existence.
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Re: What is in a name? as used by PICA's
Post by PeterZ   » Fri Oct 30, 2015 8:00 am

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That's right. He is the personal pet of Archangel Andropov.

Keith_w wrote:
jchilds wrote:So does that make him the Demon Murphai then?


No, Demon Murphai has an entirely separate existence.
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Re: What is in a name? as used by PICA's
Post by C. O. Thompson   » Fri Oct 30, 2015 9:37 am

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jchilds wrote:So does that make him the Demon Murphai then?



Ohhhhhhhh! (slap my forehead) :lol: how did a punster miss that?
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Re: What is in a name? as used by PICA's
Post by C. O. Thompson   » Fri Oct 30, 2015 9:41 am

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evilauthor wrote:
C. O. Thompson wrote:Iorwerth,

There is one other name but, I am thinking that this name was chosen for him and has no alternate meaning from Welsh...
Zhozuah Murphai ((Which I translate as Joshua Murphy)) and it is used in the introduction to the Helm Cleavers in Zion


There's also an Abraim Zhevons, which I think is derived from Abram Devons, also a non-Welsh name. And Slatyr, derived from Slater.

What do all three have in common? They were initially used as infiltration identities. They're not supposed to draw attention due to their outlandishness because the identities using them aren't supposed to stand out as unusual. They're common Safeholdian names no one is supposed to look twice at.


Good catch Evilauthor. Just another example of the layers of mystery the David puts into his work.
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Re: What is in a name? as used by PICA's
Post by C. O. Thompson   » Mon Nov 07, 2016 12:29 pm

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I am still waiting for the UPS truck or Kindle delivery of AtSOT but I just took a look inside and came across two new names that I hope you can translate...
Gwyliwr and Cleddyf are the names that Merlin gave to Thrisk when he came to deliver a message...
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Re: What is in a name? as used by PICA's
Post by ksandgren   » Mon Nov 07, 2016 4:07 pm

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C. O. Thompson wrote:I am still waiting for the UPS truck or Kindle delivery of AtSOT but I just took a look inside and came across two new names that I hope you can translate...
Gwyliwr and Cleddyf are the names that Merlin gave to Thrisk when he came to deliver a message...


Iowerth published what the welsh names mean. Those two translate to sentinel and sword.
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Re: What is in a name? as used by PICA's
Post by C. O. Thompson   » Mon Nov 07, 2016 6:53 pm

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ksandgren wrote:
C. O. Thompson wrote:I am still waiting for the UPS truck or Kindle delivery of AtSOT but I just took a look inside and came across two new names that I hope you can translate...
Gwyliwr and Cleddyf are the names that Merlin gave to Thrisk when he came to deliver a message...


Iowerth published what the welch names mean. Those two translate to sentinel and sword.


I believe you but did not see either of these names in the posting on the first page of this discussion.

Thanks for the information...
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Re: What is in a name? as used by PICA's
Post by ksandgren   » Mon Nov 07, 2016 9:07 pm

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Iowerth published what the welch names mean. Those two translate to sentinel and sword.[/quote]

I believe you but did not see either of these names in the posting on the first page of this discussion.

Thanks for the information...[/quote]

You are correct as to this thread, but about three pages into the Safehold forum is a more complete list of the Welsh he translated. If you use the keyword Welsh and search titles you should find it without going about three pages looking at every listing. If I were more adept at parsing this site, I would include a reference director of some kind.
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Re: What is in a name? as used by PICA's
Post by Iorwerth   » Tue Nov 08, 2016 3:44 am

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ksandgren wrote:Iowerth published what the welch names mean. Those two translate to sentinel and sword.


I believe you but did not see either of these names in the posting on the first page of this discussion.

Thanks for the information...[/quote]

You are correct as to this thread, but about three pages into the Safehold forum is a more complete list of the Welsh he translated. If you use the keyword Welsh and search titles you should find it without going about three pages looking at every listing. If I were more adept at parsing this site, I would include a reference director of some kind.[/quote]

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Hello,

In the Sticky Snippet Post at the top of the forum. note 4 links to a post on Welsh which I have updated and edited. I have only added a couple of Welsh names from the Amazon Preview - I have not downloaded my copy of AtSoT yet. Perhaps after work today....

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Re: What is in a name? as used by PICA's
Post by Louis R   » Tue Nov 08, 2016 5:09 pm

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Unfortunately, it's come Unstuck

the link is viewtopic.php?f=7&t=8188&p=230269&hilit=welsh#p230269

Iorwerth wrote:
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Hello,

In the Sticky Snippet Post at the top of the forum. note 4 links to a post on Welsh which I have updated and edited. I have only added a couple of Welsh names from the Amazon Preview - I have not downloaded my copy of AtSoT yet. Perhaps after work today....

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