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Poll: who do you think will kill Clyntahn? (spoilers?)

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So who'll be the one to off the Grand Inquisitor?

Duchairn and/or his conspiracy
17
22%
Magwair or Temple Guard
7
9%
Rayno
8
10%
Merlin/Mab
3
4%
Charisan Army or Navy
0
No votes
Nynian and/or Helm Cleaver
9
11%
Phandys
6
8%
court of judges via public trial
6
8%
his heart
11
14%
somebody else
12
15%
 
Total votes : 79
Re: Poll: who do you think will kill Clyntahn? (spoilers?)
Post by C. O. Thompson   » Fri Oct 23, 2015 3:28 pm

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Kacey wrote:I am fairly certain it will end up being Duchairn, I think it would be really funny to read the scene and have Duchairn point out that kindness is deadlier than fear. But it may just be Clyntahn's own temper that kills him.



Yeah, I can see that but, I cannot see Duchairn shooting him... I could see Magwair putting a bullet or three into him like maybe Clyntahn puts Brother Lyncoln into custody or sneers about the ineffectiveness of the army and BANG
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Re: Poll: who do you think will kill Clyntahn? (spoilers?)
Post by n7axw   » Fri Oct 23, 2015 4:59 pm

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On the basis of textev in HFQ, my guess would be Nynian's organization, Helm Cleaver. That is where the most solid hints that it is being worked on so far. However, given that package Hauwerd Wylsyn slipped Duchairn in AMF, I wonder if it might not be Duchairn in combination with Helm Cleaver.

But no hint of that connection has showed up sinse AMF. So it could be that RFC will give us an unexpected twist in the plot...

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Re: Poll: who do you think will kill Clyntahn? (spoilers?)
Post by Bruno Behrends   » Sat Oct 24, 2015 4:51 am

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I vote for somebody else: Some re-awakened archangel.

Aside from Merlin Clynthan is the single most important reason why the church is losing its grip on Safehold. He more and more completely derails Langhorne's plan. Not to mention his continuous atrocities. So I think Clynthan is toast when one of the original Langhorne leaders really does wake.
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Re: Poll: who do you think will kill Clyntahn? (spoilers?)
Post by TBird50   » Sat Oct 24, 2015 4:05 pm

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It would be very satisfying if Duchairn or Irys or Merlin would off Clynthan; but it seems to me that the best way would be by public court and hanging. If he is murdered by someone, then he has the opportunity to become a martyr, whereas if he is publicly condemned with evidence shown as to all the atrocities he has committed, then he becomes just another tyrant that has finally met his doom.
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Re: Poll: who do you think will kill Clyntahn? (spoilers?)
Post by C. O. Thompson   » Sun Oct 25, 2015 11:40 am

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TBird50 wrote:It would be very satisfying if Duchairn or Irys or Merlin would off Clynthan; but it seems to me that the best way would be by public court and hanging. If he is murdered by someone, then he has the opportunity to become a martyr, whereas if he is publicly condemned with evidence shown as to all the atrocities he has committed, then he becomes just another tyrant that has finally met his doom.


TBird50... I think you are right on target with this. The thing is, he is the cop with the red and blue lights flashing in your rear view mirror. He can top 90 on his way to the doughnut shop but you have to sit there and smile when he says "Do you know why I stopped you"
Who is going to arrest him?

That is why I suggested <in a different post> that Helm Cleaver should provide his steward with a bottle of his favorite spirits with order-less, tasteless nano that trigger a stroke when he gets into one of his rages... my most twisted side wants him to be unable to speak or right but fully capable to hear and see. I would also like to thank him for all the pain and destruction he caused by putting a voice in his head.

Oh and the nano would have to have some sort of a short range transmitter that would alert Merlin when Clinton has has a few shots so Merlin and/or Helm Cleaver can do something the will send him off the deep end.

I guess that is too convoluted and this is just one more example of why you read David Weber's stories and not mine ;)
Just my 2 ₡ worth
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Re: Poll: who do you think will kill Clyntahn? (spoilers?)
Post by XofDallas   » Sun Oct 25, 2015 12:49 pm

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I think he will be killed by whoever/whatever is going to turn up in a few years as foretold.
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Re: Poll: who do you think will kill Clyntahn? (spoilers?)
Post by TBird50   » Mon Oct 26, 2015 12:49 pm

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C. O. Thompson wrote:
TBird50 wrote:It would be very satisfying if Duchairn or Irys or Merlin would off Clynthan; but it seems to me that the best way would be by public court and hanging. If he is murdered by someone, then he has the opportunity to become a martyr, whereas if he is publicly condemned with evidence shown as to all the atrocities he has committed, then he becomes just another tyrant that has finally met his doom.


TBird50... I think you are right on target with this. The thing is, he is the cop with the red and blue lights flashing in your rear view mirror. He can top 90 on his way to the doughnut shop but you have to sit there and smile when he says "Do you know why I stopped you"
Who is going to arrest him?

That is why I suggested <in a different post> that Helm Cleaver should provide his steward with a bottle of his favorite spirits with order-less, tasteless nano that trigger a stroke when he gets into one of his rages... my most twisted side wants him to be unable to speak or right but fully capable to hear and see. I would also like to thank him for all the pain and destruction he caused by putting a voice in his head.

Oh and the nano would have to have some sort of a short range transmitter that would alert Merlin when Clinton has has a few shots so Merlin and/or Helm Cleaver can do something the will send him off the deep end.

I guess that is too convoluted and this is just one more example of why you read David Weber's stories and not mine ;)


I'm thinking that the armies of Charis will conquer Zion & the Temple lands and find Clyntahn in his hidey hole ala Sadam Hussein, drag him out and put him on trial...
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Re: Poll: who do you think will kill Clyntahn? (spoilers?)
Post by eldrwyrm   » Mon Oct 26, 2015 1:06 pm

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I'm still holding out for him to be arrested by the Grand Vicar for gross incompetence and mis-allocation of church funds. However, with the Inquisition providing/overseeing all of the security in Zion and in the temple proper, that may be a little difficult.

I'm starting to think that RFC might be setting up Rayno as a conspirator to remove Clyntahn. Rayno wouldn't act directly, but he would be in the best position to "steer" the right guards into the Grand Vicar's service to serve as a force that would be willing to arrest Clyntahn once the orders were given. I also believe that Rayno is the only one that can do it, since Traynayr is now a non-entity.
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Re: Poll: who do you think will kill Clyntahn? (spoilers?)
Post by Icecold   » Mon Oct 26, 2015 1:56 pm

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Hi,

I voted somebody else, even though I think Durchain or Magwair are very good candidates.
I just think that Clynthan is just too paranoid and aware of them as possible enemies.
And Rayno is too commited and devoted to Clynthan and his cause, at least from my perspective. Remember: he believes that the "sejins" are real demons.

I believe that he will be killed during a general uprising in Zion. There are just too many possibilities for the who and how for me to make a good guess. (Everything from Suizid to an accident to some traitor within the Inquisition to outside agents or just somebody in a mob generally upset with the Inquisition and not even recognising who they are killing.)
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Re: Poll: who do you think will kill Clyntahn? (spoilers?)
Post by jgnfld   » Mon Oct 26, 2015 2:43 pm

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Irys will rip his heart out and then lick her fingers.
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