Honorverse HIGHER Education

When you create the first university on a planet it is the ONLY university on the planet. So I suspect the University of Manticore is what they will call it.

Jonathan_S wrote:

cthia wrote:And even the most incapable of artificial intelligences would realize, sooner than never, that if the opposing enemy commander has Salamander in her name -- it's a setup! Especially if an unexpected windfall has just occurred and it appears that she somehow has screwed up by the numbers. Aren't capable COs supposed to study and know their enemy? Especially when she's changed your or your navy's diaper over and over and over.

Of course there are the two obvious counter examples where it wasn't a set-up. Fearless vs Saladin/Thunder of God - where pushing though would have most likely won the hour for the Masadans (though they'd have ultimately lost the day one White Haven's BC squadron arrived)

And when Honor got captured. If they'd acted cautiously just because she was there HMS Prince Adrian likely could have escaped.


And arguably both of those look like she screwed up. (Or in the case of the former had no better choice than to fight way out of her ship's weight class.

Tell you what Johnathan, I'll split the difference with you and give you the former, but the latter -- the capturing of Prince Adrian -- turned out to be the biggest setup in all the series! (Even if it wasn't planned.) The Peeps would have been much better off NOT to have captured Prince Adrian. What did they gain out of it? What did they lose out of it?

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SETUP!

Warfare is a setup tangling with a Salamander. You simply don't bring a Peep to a Salamander fight.

The Peep academy teaches tactics from Cliff Notes! lol

P.S.
My chips are on Jennifer Bellefeuille attending University in the Suarez system. She was a peep above the rest. lol

Where were the Mesan genetic lines educated? And now?

The Alpha lines were the most superior genetic lines produced by the Mesan Alignment, destined to serve as the ruling class once the Renaissance Factor had taken over control of humanity.

Many of them had been bred to alleged perfection for centuries by the Long-Range Planning Board. (HH12)

http://honorverse.wikia.com/wiki/Alpha_line

most of the alpha's are going to have been educated in Solly uni's

no way are they going to let them anywhere near Manty space. even if no one could possible know their importance to the grand plan.

Andermani is pos i suppose, but given that they will most likely have jobs where they deal with solly bureaucrats who will not believe a non-solly degree worth the photon it uses. (paper it is written on if you are a dinosaur and prefer these things in hard copy)

cthia wrote:Where were the Mesan genetic lines educated? And now?

Obviously home schooled. It wouldn't do to have them associate with lesser beings when they were young and impressionable.

Other than that, they were educated along with the general population, but presumably were provided funds and resources to attend the top schools available (on and off planet.)

Weird Harold wrote:

cthia wrote:
Where were the Mesan genetic lines educated? And now?

Obviously home schooled. It wouldn't do to have them associate with lesser beings when they were young and impressionable.

Other than that, they were educated along with the general population, but presumably were provided funds and resources to attend the top schools available (on and off planet.)

Perhaps not as obvious as you may think, Harold. I've found that most people have an inaccurate view of the concept of home schooling.

There are rules and regulations, like turning in a record of attendance and number of hours, etc. because you must teach at least nine months of the year. Normally a parent who is preparing to home school consults with a particular school in her area for courses, etc. They must file a notice of intent. (NOI) Even though a student is home schooled, he/she still must pass annual standardized tests. You can't allow parents to pass/fail a student and hand out degrees.

I suppose if the MAlign doesn't ultimately care about employability, placeability in the private sector apart from Darius it wouldn't matter. But I don't think that's the case.

cthia wrote:Perhaps not as obvious as you may think, Harold. I've found that most people have an inaccurate view of the concept of home schooling.

There are rules and regulations, like turning in a record of attendance and number of hours, etc. because you must teach at least nine months of the year.

The thing about Home Schooling is that while you are required to teach certain things, there is no restriction on what else you choose to teach -- Forex, prayer is not prohibited to home schoolers. If you want to avoid "contamination" by political correctness and ideas about racial/ethinic equality -- a definite anathema to genetic superiority believers -- then home schooling is about your only option; especially for a "sleeper" family.

Weird Harold wrote:

cthia wrote:Perhaps not as obvious as you may think, Harold. I've found that most people have an inaccurate view of the concept of home schooling.

There are rules and regulations, like turning in a record of attendance and number of hours, etc. because you must teach at least nine months of the year.

The thing about Home Schooling is that while you are required to teach certain things, there is no restriction on what else you choose to teach -- Forex, prayer is not prohibited to home schoolers. If you want to avoid "contamination" by political correctness and ideas about racial/ethinic equality -- a definite anathema to genetic superiority believers -- then home schooling is about your only option; especially for a "sleeper" family.

You aren't required to teach certain things. You are only required to pass annual standardized tests. The main point here, is that in the end the MAlign needs its lines, certainly Alpha lines, to be soluble in society. They can't place them in key positions without accredited education from reputable sources. Regardless of how much innate intellect they might actually have. And if they have to go by the book re education, that might be a source of paper trail.

cthia wrote:You aren't required to teach certain things. You are only required to pass annual standardized tests.

IOW, you are required to teach the material to be tested. What is taught beyond the material required to pass the tests is of no concern to the authorities.

cthia wrote:The main point here, is that in the end the MAlign needs its lines, certainly Alpha lines, to be soluble in society. They can't place them in key positions without accredited education from reputable sources.

You must have missed the other point I made that Alpha Lines, especially sleeper lines, would merge with the general populace for higher education. Home schooling would only be required while the children were most impressionable -- roughly through elementary grades. Once the basic "you're genetically superior but you can't tell anyone" indoctrination is complete, they can be turned loose to "assimilate" into the general population.