Honorverse HIGHER Education

Vince wrote:

cthia wrote:Same here. Since the only University mentioned on Grayson is Mayhew University, I just assumed. Certainly Grayson women never left planet side. Just one University for an entire planetary population which also included Masadans seems a stretch. And how good could the quality of Grayson education be being pure of foreign professors since first landing? That they fared so well is a testament to Grayson.

At least some Grayson and even Masadan women left planetside, even before the time of The Honor of the Queen:

The Service of the Sword, Promised Land wrote:Judith had been very young when the raiders took the ship, young, but not too young to remember. There had been explosions, the shrill scream of tearing metal, the insidious tugging of air leaking from a ruptured compartment before someone slapped on a patch.
The battle had been muffled, somehow less than real, made distant by the swaddling vac suit two sizes too big, but the best they'd had intact. It had been muffled, less than real, but that didn't save the child.
Reality came through later, came through with a vengeance.

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The ship that had captured theirs had been from Masada. Judith had been too young to understand the difference between pirates and privateers. When she was old enough to know, she was also old enough to know that when it came to Masadans preying on Graysons the distinctions were so much fertilizer.
Her father had been killed helping to defend the ship. Her mother had died trying to defend her child. Judith only wished she could have died with them.

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She had a secret, a secret she held onto even as she bit her lip to keep from crying out when her husband used her again and yet again. She held onto it even when she saw the grudging pity in the eyes of her co-wives. She held onto it as she had from the moment she watched her mother bleed her life out onto the deck plates, remembering that brave woman's final warning.
"Never let them know that you can read."

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To his fellows, who hated the Graysons with singleminded fanaticism, Judith was presented as a soul redeemed from sin, a vessel who would carry within her womb those who would prove the undoing of their own forbearers. For this reason, Ephraim often took Judith with him when his duties took him away from home. She was a trophy: living, breathing proof that the Masadan struggle to conquer Grayson would not be in vain.
Initially, Judith, then only twelve, had hated these voyages. They forced her into increased intimacy with her husband, for Ephraim didn't bring any other of his wives. However, once Judith realized that during her voyages on Aaron's Rod she was free from observation—for jealous Ephraim kept her locked in the captain's quarters lest she incite unholy lust among his crew—she took advantage of her isolation.

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There were exceptions. In the early years of their marriage, Ephraim had taken Dinah on his voyages, and she, like Judith, had striven to learn something about the various departments. Dinah's actual skills were woefully outdated, but at least she understood the concept of three-dimensional astrogation and tactics. Many of the Sisters persisted, no matter how carefully Judith explained, in visualizing their ship as sailing over a flat surface.

Italics are the author's.

kzt wrote:They adults were crew on a Grayson merchant vessel.

Weird Harold wrote:

cthia wrote:I just referred to them as Masadans as a label in verse to reference the addition of that population now exiled. Unless you are implying there was no higher education during those times?

You gave the impression that you were talking about a 1905 date range.

I'm not sure that there was much higher education happening during the Grayson Civil War. I further doubt that the "Masadans" partook of what higher education there was; their religious philosophy seems opposed to any education beyond enough to read the holy book(s).

cthia wrote:I thought Masadans were against technology, not education. Surely Tester would not want them to be ignorant, or how would they ever pass the doctrine of their tests? lol

cthia wrote:On second thought, does textev say when the practice of armsmen began? Did Benjamin have to endure it at Harvard?

Jonathan_S wrote:

cthia wrote:On second thought, does textev say when the practice of armsmen began? Did Benjamin have to endure it at Harvard?

I don't recall a specific statement of when it began. But the practice was reformed and limited 500-ish years ago after Benjamin The Great won the civil war. So yes it would have existed when Benjamin IX went to Harvard; and when his younger brother Mathew went to Abderman University.

Princess Elizabeth was educated at home with Princess Margaret, her younger sister.

After her father succeeded to the throne in 1936 and she became heir presumptive, she started to study constitutional history and law as preparation for her future role.

She received tuition from her father, as well as sessions with Henry Marten, the Vice-Provost of Eton. She was also instructed in religion by the Archbishop of Canterbury.

Princess Elizabeth also learned French from a number of French and Belgian governesses. It is a skill which has stood The Queen in good stead, as she often has cause to use it when speaking to ambassadors and heads of state from French-speaking countries, and when visiting French-speaking areas of Canada.

Princess Elizabeth also studied art and music, learned to ride, and became a strong swimmer. She won the Children's Challenge Shield at London's Bath Club when she was thirteen.

Princess Elizabeth enrolled as a Girl Guide when she was eleven, and later became a Sea Ranger.

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