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Thoughts from a Newbie: Rose Reads Safehold

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Re: Thoughts from a Newbie: Rose Reads Safehold
Post by Mhilgtx   » Tue Sep 22, 2015 2:21 pm

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Hi Rose

Nice to see you here.

He also has a cat-lizard - not sure if that is 'a good thing' to you or a source of deep misery and reprobation :-)[/quote]

RFC seems to have a thing for cats and how they regard humans as the perfect accessories...[/quote]

RFC has an excellent grasp of the realities of the cat-human relationship.


My Shitzus seem to think they are creations of RFC and or cats(lizards) since they think the whole family is only here for there amusement.
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Re: Thoughts from a Newbie: Rose Reads Safehold
Post by Dauntless   » Fri Sep 25, 2015 11:43 am

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to quote terry pratchett

"In ancient times cats were worshipped as gods: They have not forgotten this."
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Re: Thoughts from a Newbie: Rose Reads Safehold
Post by Tonto Silerheels   » Fri Sep 25, 2015 4:05 pm

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roseandheather wrote:

Sharleyan is a BAMF.

I have to admit I truly admired her handling of events post-assassination attempt--the one in Manchyr, not the on at Ste. Agtha's.

I don't know if Thirsk will ever rise as magnificently to the occasion as Tom Theisman did, or if he'll even be given the opportunity to.

Talk to me again after you've read Hell's Foundations Quiver, or the mini snippets.

Anyway, I'm thrilled to be here, thoroughly enjoying my first romp through this world, and looking forward to read-through number two so I can stop going "but what's going to happen next??" and actually start putting together some more cogent, in-depth, critically thought out opinions on the sociopolitical landscape of this fascinating new world, which we all know is my favorite thing to do with any of RFC's works.

Your enthusiasm is contagious.

One of the things I enjoy most is seeing Merlin through other people's eyes. Pardon all of the following errors, but I'm working from memory here...the scene at Ste. Zherneou's--"springs from a fidelity you can't imagine. Are you the second string to her bow?" Earl Corin at the rescue from Talkyra--"the man's got style!" And later, the head of Daivyn's security detail--"Of course he is! Whole point of the exercise."

I recently came across a quote for the first time that I'm rather fond of.

“There are three things all wise men fear: the sea in storm, a night with no moon, and the anger of a gentle man.” Patrick Rothfuss


~Tonto
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Re: Thoughts from a Newbie: Rose Reads Safehold
Post by saber964   » Fri Sep 25, 2015 9:44 pm

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Dauntless wrote:to quote Terry Pratchett

"In ancient times cats were worshiped as gods: They have not forgotten this."



Posted at the local ASPCA shelter I volunteer at.

Dogs have masters
Cats have staff
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Re: Thoughts from a Newbie: Rose Reads Safehold
Post by Isilith   » Sat Sep 26, 2015 1:48 am

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SWM wrote:She wasn't unwitting when she passed messages for her cousin. She did it in full collaboration with her cousin. She believed the Church was right.


I keep waiting for her to visit the royal executioner.
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Re: Thoughts from a Newbie: Rose Reads Safehold
Post by Dauntless   » Sat Sep 26, 2015 7:07 am

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saber964 wrote:
Dauntless wrote:to quote Terry Pratchett

"In ancient times cats were worshiped as gods: They have not forgotten this."



Posted at the local ASPCA shelter I volunteer at.

Dogs have masters
Cats have staff


another excellent one that boasts of our slavery to our feline friends
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Re: Thoughts from a Newbie: Rose Reads Safehold
Post by n7axw   » Sat Sep 26, 2015 11:28 am

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Isilith wrote:
SWM wrote:She wasn't unwitting when she passed messages for her cousin. She did it in full collaboration with her cousin. She believed the Church was right.


I keep waiting for her to visit the royal executioner.


Maybe. Or maybe used as a conduit to feed misinformation...or maybe just eased out of her job into someting less sensitive.

She comes off as a tragic figure.

Don
When any group seeks political power in God's name, both religion and politics are instantly corrupted.
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Re: Thoughts from a Newbie: Rose Reads Safehold
Post by Isilith   » Sat Sep 26, 2015 11:45 am

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n7axw wrote:
Isilith wrote:
I keep waiting for her to visit the royal executioner.


Maybe. Or maybe used as a conduit to feed misinformation...or maybe just eased out of her job into someting less sensitive.

She comes off as a tragic figure.

Don


No, no she doesn't come off as tragic. She is a friggin psychopath that the world would be better off without. She was praying for her brother AFTER knowing he had just killed her cousin, a cousin that she was as close to as a brother... and then decided to double down on the treason she was involved with.

She betrayed her country, her friends, and even her family...

Now, I will give you the point that they could USE her to damage the CoGA... BEFORE executing her.
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Re: Thoughts from a Newbie: Rose Reads Safehold
Post by PeterZ   » Sat Sep 26, 2015 12:48 pm

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Does conviction not merit something more than being called a pyschopath? Strong conviction and strong faith even when those convictions and faith are not shared are worthy of recognition and respect. Otherwise its oh so easy to demonize those that disagree and hold those disagreement powerfully. Especially in times of war.

Isilith wrote:
n7axw wrote:Maybe. Or maybe used as a conduit to feed misinformation...or maybe just eased out of her job into someting less sensitive.

She comes off as a tragic figure.

Don


No, no she doesn't come off as tragic. She is a friggin psychopath that the world would be better off without. She was praying for her brother AFTER knowing he had just killed her cousin, a cousin that she was as close to as a brother... and then decided to double down on the treason she was involved with.

She betrayed her country, her friends, and even her family...

Now, I will give you the point that they could USE her to damage the CoGA... BEFORE executing her.
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Re: Thoughts from a Newbie: Rose Reads Safehold
Post by Isilith   » Sat Sep 26, 2015 12:55 pm

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PeterZ wrote:Does conviction not merit something more than being called a pyschopath? Strong conviction and strong faith even when those convictions and faith are not shared are worthy of recognition and respect. Otherwise its oh so easy to demonize those that disagree and hold those disagreement powerfully. Especially in times of war.


Uh, no they don't merit respect. She KNOWS her brother just killed himself, a cousin that was raised WITH HER as a brother, and God only knows how many other people. Trying to justify actions like that isn't conviction, it is a mental illness.

That is like saying "respect the suicide bombers" as they blow up busloads of kids.
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