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Re: Is Chisholm really an equal part of the Charisian empire | |
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by peke » Thu Sep 24, 2015 1:15 pm | |
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Back to the original topic:
There's a way that would turn Chisholm into the industrial center of the Empire, or go a long way towards refuting the "inequality issue" Just picture the following scenario:the Temple siege is about to end, the wall has been breached, fighting in the hallways, the OBS goes active... and a single KEW is thrown at Tellesberg before they manage to shut it down. Unlikely, but then again, it's RFC we're talking about. ------------------------------------------------------
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Re: Is Chisholm really an equal part of the Charisian empire | |
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by JeffEngel » Thu Sep 24, 2015 4:20 pm | |
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Horrific as that is, I think more of Charis' industry is at Delthak nowadays than in Tellesberg itself. But it'd certainly do very bad things to Charis' total economic and infrastructure picture; even Delthak depends ultimately on the commerce and finances going through Tellesberg. |
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by Thendisnia » Fri Sep 25, 2015 7:35 am | |
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Thanks for telling us how Merlin dies.... as he throws his skimmer into the path of that KEW |
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by hanuman » Sat Sep 26, 2015 12:56 am | |
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Run for the bomb shelters, the skie's coming down. We're actually in agreement on something I think we need to remember that the reason we've seen limited screentime thus far of major characters from the Empire's junior member states, is that the entire series started off in Charis, and that the driving forces behind the emergence of the Empire and the conduct of the war against the CoGA's monopolistic hold on scientific research and technological innovation have been Charisian. Haarahld and his advisors clearly hoped that Charis' maritime dominance offered the kingdom a chance to survive the confrontation with the Church they knew was coming. And then Merlin came along and that chance increased tremendously. None of the other outlying island realms enjoyed Charis' advantages, or had their own version of the Brethren to fertilize the soil, so to speak. I mean, had the Group of Four's ire been directed against Chisholm or Corisande, there'd be no chance of survival at all. But that certainly doesn't mean that the people of the other island realms weren't of a more independent mindset, both as individuals and culturally, than the Church would really have preferred. That is clear from how quickly the respective Reformist movements of the various realms gained strong support and how widespread that support was, once the immediate threat of the Inquisition was removed. It would be a serious mistake to regard that independence of thought as relating only to spiritual matters, especially given the way that the Church and religion impacted almost every aspect of Safeholdian life. I believe that the islanders' willingness to accept the Charisian Church's doctrine is only symptomatic of a deeper independent mentality. That mindset, coupled with economic imperatives and the innate human drive to better understand our 'world', would certainly provide plenty of motivation for Chisholmians and the people of the junior territorial units to become more inquisitive, more innovative and more entrepreneurial in their own right, especially after the artificially-enforced constraints of Langhorn's and Bédard's societal matrix were removed from the equation. My point with all of that is that Caleb's, and Sharleyan's, and Irys's fascination with the new technologies and knowledge seems to reflect a freer and much more widespread cultural mindset, and aren't isolated examples at all. With regards to the topic, I think that the above is all very relevant as well. Royal Charis isn't the only realm with vast natural resources, after all. Human competitiveness and greed will incline individuals with investable resources to seek to exploit those resources, and given the example and advantages of Charisian techniques and technologies, individuals in the other units of the Empire will rather quickly adopt those techniques and technologies, especially now that the Inquisition's constrictive hold had been removed. At the same time, official support for such efforts will also be a major contributing factor. We need to remember that Safeholdian monarchs in general do not only reign, they also rule (Emperor Waisu notwithstanding). Since Cayleb and Sharleyan decreed that Charis and Chisholm will be equal senior partners in the Empire, and that imperial economic policies will apply equally to all imperial units, that is in fact the official and actual policy of the imperial government. That is hugely important. Some individuals - specifically among the great nobles and traditional guilds - might resist their policies, but the imperial and 'state' governments' official standing will be the decisive factor in the long run. |
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