EdThomas wrote:Wyrm, do you say "eh" a lot.
I'm English, so no. However, I've got family who emigrated to Ontario, so I've picked up a bit of the local history.
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by wyrm » Wed Sep 23, 2015 5:37 pm | |
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I'm English, so no. However, I've got family who emigrated to Ontario, so I've picked up a bit of the local history. |
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by wyrm » Wed Sep 23, 2015 5:49 pm | |
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I think that is best summed up by the fact that de Valera congratulated Subhas Chandra Bose when he set up the Japanese puppet Azad Hind (Free India), and offered his condolences to the German embassy in Dublin on the death of Hitler, but failed to congratulate de Gaulle on setting up the Free French, and failed to offer the US embassy his condolences upon the death of Roosevelt. |
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by n7axw » Wed Sep 23, 2015 9:50 pm | |
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All understandable, I think. I've heard him accused of being a Nazi symp. But that really wasn't it at all. He saw the entire world through the lens of the British-Irish conflict. That was what was real to the man. Don When any group seeks political power in God's name, both religion and politics are instantly corrupted.
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by Louis R » Thu Sep 24, 2015 12:09 pm | |
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That's probably because there wasn't one. The Yanks [and in this case, I'm using the term fairly accurately, the South wasn't all that interested in the War of 1812] seem to have expected a Francophone revolt, although why, when they'd been shown the door in very short order in 1777, escapes me. They didn't get one, and were frogmarched back over the border yet again.
There was a rebellion in Lower Canada in 1837, but it was accompanied by one in _Upper_ Canada as well, and the result was what should have happened in response to the unrest of 1773-5: responsible government and a fair bit of autonomy. Unfortunately, as the history of Ireland shows, it wasn't because they'd learned any lessons from the American revolt. It happens that the UK was in the first throws of the reforms that culminated a century later with universal suffrage, and the radicals running things at the time saw no reason not to apply the model they followed overseas. IIRC, that's actually what happened after the conquest of Quebec in 1760 - the initial policy was set by a rather radical government that had fallen and been replaced by North and his idiots. It didn't occur to them to reverse the decisions made WRT Quebec, but they weren't brooking any hint of challenge to their authority from the colonies. Reminds me rather forcefully of Trynair and Clyntahn, now that I think about it.
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