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Re: Most favorite Honorverse tech
Post by munroburton   » Fri Sep 18, 2015 12:50 pm

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saber964 wrote:
Relax wrote:Surely Honor got Sam one?


If not Hamish, certainly did. Also I bet Ariel and Monroe have one too.


I wouldn't be surprised if Honor(or Elizabeth) arranged for every treecat in the RMN to get one, whether the cost for it came out of her pocket or the Admiralty budget.

I can't remember whether Wayfarer's chief engineer had a lower-end model life support box for Sam or couldn't afford one at all. I do remember that Sam ended up in Nimitz's box in Honor's quarters whilst Nimitz was in his skinsuit during combat actions.

That suggests such things are beyond the income of a lieutenant commander in the engineering track(unless Tschu had dependents to support, but I don't recall mention of that). Honor's parents were both doctors, one of whom had seen the consequences of naval combat up close, so she and Nimitz were lucky to get one for their very first deployment.
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Re: Most favorite Honorverse tech
Post by Jonathan_S   » Fri Sep 18, 2015 2:29 pm

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munroburton wrote:
saber964 wrote:
If not Hamish, certainly did. Also I bet Ariel and Monroe have one too.


I wouldn't be surprised if Honor(or Elizabeth) arranged for every treecat in the RMN to get one, whether the cost for it came out of her pocket or the Admiralty budget.

I can't remember whether Wayfarer's chief engineer had a lower-end model life support box for Sam or couldn't afford one at all. I do remember that Sam ended up in Nimitz's box in Honor's quarters whilst Nimitz was in his skinsuit during combat actions.

That suggests such things are beyond the income of a lieutenant commander in the engineering track(unless Tschu had dependents to support, but I don't recall mention of that). Honor's parents were both doctors, one of whom had seen the consequences of naval combat up close, so she and Nimitz were lucky to get one for their very first deployment.

The wording in the quotes isn't 100% unambiguous but my reading is that as of OBS there were not standard issue life support modules for treecats - if you wanted one you had to buy one out of pocket.
On Basilisk Station: Ch. 27 wrote:Nimitz had hurtled from his perch at the first shrill of the alarm. He'd been through this same drill as often as she, and he scurried across the cabin to the boxlike affair she'd had clamped to the bulkhead below her sailplane plaque immediately after coming aboard. That box wasn't Fleet issue, and it had cost Honor a small fortune, for it was a custom-built life support module, sized to Nimitz's stature and fitted with the same search and rescue beacon as a Fleet vac suit. It was good for a hundred hours on its internal life support, and the door slammed automatically behind him as he fled into it. He couldn't open it from the inside, but unless something scored a direct hit on it, he could survive even if battle damage opened the cabin to space.

In HAE I suppose you could read "settle for a standard life support module" two alternate ways. The first, which I think is more likely, is that they still aren't Fleet Issue but simply that they're less expensive than a skinsuit (partly because they don't have to be custom tailored, nor do they require components to be as miniaturized) and so more affordable to spacers. The second is that "standard" means standard Fleet issue, as contrasted to the enhanced version Honor commissioned. Here's the pertinent quote
Honor Among Enemies: Ch 39 wrote:[Honor] simply couldn't, and at least [Nimitz] was better off than Samantha. He had his skinsuit; Tschu hadn't been able to afford one, and he'd had to settle for a standard life support module. But that much Honor had been able to improve upon. She still had the deluxe module she'd bought Nimitz before Paul designed his suit—the one with the built in anti-radiation armor and the extended life support—and she'd insisted that Tschu take Samantha to her quarters and put her inside its greater protection.


Now, with un-bonded treecats volunteering to serve the Navy has an obligation to provide adequate protection to them; like they would to any other spacer. So I damned well expect that they'd be issued skinsuits.

But prior to that I also heartily hope that no paired spacer ever had to ship out without at least a life support module for their 'cat. That even when the Fleet wasn't issuing them that there was a charity or something that would assist in providing basic life support modules to those in need. The overall cost couldn't have been that high simply because there were so few bonded pairs out there - as as they move up the ranks (or reach the end of their service) people could donate their used life support modules back for refurbishing before being loaned out to needy 'cat's humans.
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Re: Most favorite Honorverse tech
Post by Brian   » Fri Sep 18, 2015 3:40 pm

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Vibro blade. I have no desire to gut a foe, but that thing sounds incredibly handy.
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Re: Most favorite Honorverse tech
Post by SWM   » Fri Sep 18, 2015 3:57 pm

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George J. Smith wrote:cthia, I believe that was Aluminium (aluminium to you guys over the pond).


You know the trek universe is real...

Transparent Aluminum Oxide - 3x stronger than steel

http://www.globalspec.com/industrial-directory/transparent_aluminum_oxide

That's right - you can but it today... Thanks Scotty!

Also known as corundum, or, with certain trace impurities, ruby or sapphire. :)
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Re: Most favorite Honorverse tech
Post by cthia   » Fri Sep 18, 2015 4:28 pm

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Brian wrote:Vibro blade. I have no desire to gut a foe, but that thing sounds incredibly handy.

Which reminds me of the virtually weightless and indestructible blade collected at the scene of a Predator's killing by Danny Glover in Predator 2.

I actually think some of the Honorverse weapons border on the inhumane. Flechete guns? Damn! And how the heck does vehicle-based pulsers achieve such tremendous rates of fire, up to 10,000 rounds per second from one barrel? Talk about a massacre weapon.

And plasma cannons were among the most deadly weapons available, being able to destroy entire squads of enemy soldiers in a single volley??? Scotty was an expert in the use of a plasma carbine. No wonder Honor looked at him sideways!!! (In that scene Scotty reminded me of Billy in Beverley Hills Cop "Billy, we gotta talk.")

Oh come on! Anyone wanting to be a ground soldier should be given a full mental examination -- while in a straight jacket!

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Re: Most favorite Honorverse tech
Post by Phalanx   » Fri Sep 18, 2015 5:38 pm

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Grav Lance.

Because screw your sidewalls. :twisted:

Addendum:THE CRIPPLER!

Because screw your Wedge too. :lol:
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Re: Most favorite Honorverse tech
Post by saber964   » Fri Sep 18, 2015 9:40 pm

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Jonathan_S wrote:
munroburton wrote:quote="saber964"]

If not Hamish, certainly did. Also I bet Ariel and Monroe have one too.


I wouldn't be surprised if Honor(or Elizabeth) arranged for every treecat in the RMN to get one, whether the cost for it came out of her pocket or the Admiralty budget.

I can't remember whether Wayfarer's chief engineer had a lower-end model life support box for Sam or couldn't afford one at all. I do remember that Sam ended up in Nimitz's box in Honor's quarters whilst Nimitz was in his skinsuit during combat actions.

That suggests such things are beyond the income of a lieutenant commander in the engineering track(unless Tschu had dependents to support, but I don't recall mention of that). Honor's parents were both doctors, one of whom had seen the consequences of naval combat up close, so she and Nimitz were lucky to get one for their very first deployment.

The wording in the quotes isn't 100% unambiguous but my reading is that as of OBS there were not standard issue life support modules for treecats - if you wanted one you had to buy one out of pocket.
On Basilisk Station: Ch. 27 wrote:Nimitz had hurtled from his perch at the first shrill of the alarm. He'd been through this same drill as often as she, and he scurried across the cabin to the boxlike affair she'd had clamped to the bulkhead below her sailplane plaque immediately after coming aboard. That box wasn't Fleet issue, and it had cost Honor a small fortune, for it was a custom-built life support module, sized to Nimitz's stature and fitted with the same search and rescue beacon as a Fleet vac suit. It was good for a hundred hours on its internal life support, and the door slammed automatically behind him as he fled into it. He couldn't open it from the inside, but unless something scored a direct hit on it, he could survive even if battle damage opened the cabin to space.

In HAE I suppose you could read "settle for a standard life support module" two alternate ways. The first, which I think is more likely, is that they still aren't Fleet Issue but simply that they're less expensive than a skinsuit (partly because they don't have to be custom tailored, nor do they require components to be as miniaturized) and so more affordable to spacers. The second is that "standard" means standard Fleet issue, as contrasted to the enhanced version Honor commissioned. Here's the pertinent quote
Honor Among Enemies: Ch 39 wrote:[Honor] simply couldn't, and at least [Nimitz] was better off than Samantha. He had his skinsuit; Tschu hadn't been able to afford one, and he'd had to settle for a standard life support module. But that much Honor had been able to improve upon. She still had the deluxe module she'd bought Nimitz before Paul designed his suit—the one with the built in anti-radiation armor and the extended life support—and she'd insisted that Tschu take Samantha to her quarters and put her inside its greater protection.


Now, with un-bonded treecats volunteering to serve the Navy has an obligation to provide adequate protection to them; like they would to any other spacer. So I damned well expect that they'd be issued skinsuits.

But prior to that I also heartily hope that no paired spacer ever had to ship out without at least a life support module for their 'cat. That even when the Fleet wasn't issuing them that there was a charity or something that would assist in providing basic life support modules to those in need. The overall cost couldn't have been that high simply because there were so few bonded pairs out there - as as they move up the ranks (or reach the end of their service) people could donate their used life support modules back for refurbishing before being loaned out to needy 'cat's humans.[/quote]


Already been done both Lurks in Branches and Springs from Above have skin-suits.
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Re: Most favorite Honorverse tech
Post by Maldorian   » Sat Sep 19, 2015 4:12 am

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I like the Treecat Skinsuits, too!

I wonder if anyone comes to the idea to create some "external" claws to the Suits! The cat push their claws out, at the outside of the Skinsuitgloves some Titanium-Diamond or so claws push out.

Vibro blade. I have no desire to gut a foe, but that thing sounds incredibly handy.


Vibroclaws! I would say bad Cards even for someone in a Armorsuit.



Grav Lance.

Because screw your sidewalls. :twisted:


Maybe Sonja Hemphill find out how to get the Thing small enough to put it in a warhead, then it would have some use in combat!
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Re: Most favorite Honorverse tech
Post by munroburton   » Sat Sep 19, 2015 5:43 am

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Maldorian wrote:
I like the Treecat Skinsuits, too!

I wonder if anyone comes to the idea to create some "external" claws to the Suits! The cat push their claws out, at the outside of the Skinsuitgloves some Titanium-Diamond or so claws push out.

Vibro blade. I have no desire to gut a foe, but that thing sounds incredibly handy.


Vibroclaws! I would say bad Cards even for someone in a Armorsuit.



Grav Lance.

Because screw your sidewalls. :twisted:


Maybe Sonja Hemphill find out how to get the Thing small enough to put it in a warhead, then it would have some use in combat!


The only way the grav lance becomes a warhead is if the missile is at least the size of a frigate. I know missiles have been getting bigger and bigger, but I don't quite think they're there yet!

The MA's spider-drive graser torpedo was about the size of a missile pod. To squeeze a grav lance into a light cruiser's broadside required the removal of five missile launchers and two graser mounts. I'm not sure whether they fitted two complete grav lances or simply one central generator with two emitters.

More seriously than my previous post in this thread, I think my favourite tech are the warhawski sails. Always made a nice visual in my imagination whenever it was described.
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Re: Most favorite Honorverse tech
Post by dscott8   » Sat Sep 19, 2015 8:50 am

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My favorite piece of tech is the maintenance bots adapted for jousting tournaments (was that A Call To Duty?). I can just picture the Top Gear lads getting their hands on Honorverse tech.
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