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Re: Official Safehold Speculation Thread
Post by n7axw   » Tue Sep 15, 2015 6:18 pm

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Expert snuggler wrote:Didn't they scrap the colony ships for fear they could be detected by Gbaba scouts?


No. That was the excuse. The real reason was that Langhorne and co wanted to get rid of their tech. Those ships could have easily been powered down and hidden, probably in the asteroid belt. No need to destroy them.

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Re: Official Safehold Speculation Thread
Post by SWM   » Tue Sep 15, 2015 7:57 pm

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Expert snuggler wrote:Didn't they scrap the colony ships for fear they could be detected by Gbaba scouts?

No. David tells us that the original plan was to hide the ships out in the asteroid belt, powered down and perhaps covered with rubble. The Federation believed that they would be undetectable unless the Gbaba got close enough to Safehold to tell there was a low-tech civilization there anyway.

Langhorne got rid of the ships to get rid of the tech base.
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Re: Official Safehold Speculation Thread
Post by OsageOrange   » Wed Sep 16, 2015 12:19 am

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Expert snuggler wrote:Didn't they scrap the colony ships for fear they could be detected by Gbaba scouts?


The only colony vessel I remember still being around before Commodore Pei struck down Langhorne and most of his supporters was the Hamilcar.
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Re: Official Safehold Speculation Thread
Post by Rawb   » Wed Sep 16, 2015 3:11 am

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Expert snuggler wrote:Come to think of it, what happened to all the magical angelic chariots after the War Against the Fallen?

A really interesting question. I'd wager that most of them were based at the old temple and got caught in Kau-Yung's nuke. The rest, no idea. Possibly just destroyed so there wouldn't be awkward questions to ask. It would've been done under Chihiro's orders, and Chihiro essentially followed Langhorne's plan.
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Re: Official Safehold Speculation Thread
Post by CRC   » Wed Sep 16, 2015 8:29 am

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OsageOrange wrote:
Expert snuggler wrote:Didn't they scrap the colony ships for fear they could be detected by Gbaba scouts?


The only colony vessel I remember still being around before Commodore Pei struck down Langhorne and most of his supporters was the Hamilcar.


I will bet the Hamilcar is still around somewhere as well.
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Re: Official Safehold Speculation Thread
Post by Thendisnia   » Wed Sep 16, 2015 11:24 am

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CRC wrote:I will bet the Hamilcar is still around somewhere as well.


What do you think is buried under the temple.... Dun dun daaahhh!!

PICA army manufactured over 1000 years and modified Hamilcar and 10,000 year excellerated VR researched weapons...

Insert Scheular key in time of need...

Ghaba show up and done!!

Schuyler realized after the nuke that they needed a backup plan and spent the next two decades rebuilding the temple after he had family...

YOU READ IT HERE FIRST FOLKS!
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Re: Official Safehold Speculation Thread
Post by SWM   » Wed Sep 16, 2015 1:18 pm

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Thendisnia wrote:
CRC wrote:I will bet the Hamilcar is still around somewhere as well.


What do you think is buried under the temple.... Dun dun daaahhh!!

A clever idea.

Unfortunately, the last time this was proposed, David responded that the Hamilcar was much, much bigger than the Temple, and was too big to land on a planet anyway.

It is believed, however, that the manufacturing capabilities of the Hamilcar were instrumental in constructing the Temple after Pei's pocket nuke.
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Re: Official Safehold Speculation Thread
Post by Thendisnia   » Wed Sep 16, 2015 3:00 pm

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SWM wrote:
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What do you think is buried under the temple.... Dun dun daaahhh!!


It is believed, however, that the manufacturing capabilities of the Hamilcar were instrumental in constructing the Temple after Pei's pocket nuke.


Exactly that which makes me think some parts of it where recycled into the temple... Plus the temple reforming using tractor beams and that majestic dome settling into place would seem pretty "Angelic" convince a lot of Adams and Eves to join the temple in the war against the fallen.
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Re: Official Safehold Speculation Thread
Post by SWM   » Wed Sep 16, 2015 4:04 pm

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Thendisnia wrote:
SWM wrote:It is believed, however, that the manufacturing capabilities of the Hamilcar were instrumental in constructing the Temple after Pei's pocket nuke.


Exactly that which makes me think some parts of it where recycled into the temple... Plus the temple reforming using tractor beams and that majestic dome settling into place would seem pretty "Angelic" convince a lot of Adams and Eves to join the temple in the war against the fallen.

It doesn't seem very likely that anyone saw the dome being put into place. The area was uninhabited at the time. We also don't know whether the dome was built elsewhere and moved, or built in-place. I tend to think it was built in-place. But who knows? Maybe we'll get clues in the next few books.
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Re: Official Safehold Speculation Thread
Post by wingfield   » Mon Sep 21, 2015 7:25 am

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Rawb wrote:
Expert snuggler wrote:Come to think of it, what happened to all the magical angelic chariots after the War Against the Fallen?

A really interesting question. I'd wager that most of them were based at the old temple and got caught in Kau-Yung's nuke. The rest, no idea. Possibly just destroyed so there wouldn't be awkward questions to ask. It would've been done under Chihiro's orders, and Chihiro essentially followed Langhorne's plan.


We know from the early chapters of OAR that at least ONE chariot survived the nuke - it was parked at Lakeview or at least somewhere AWAY from Zion.
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