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MA? abreviations?
Post by kenl511   » Mon Sep 14, 2015 1:31 am

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Since when did MA come to mean the Mesan Alignment? I seem to recall it meant the Manticoran Alliance. Or is the assumption that with the Grand Alliance the Manticoran Alliance is less relevant?

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Re: MA? abreviations?
Post by Weird Harold   » Mon Sep 14, 2015 2:07 am

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kenl511 wrote:Since when did MA come to mean the Mesan Alignment? I seem to recall it meant the Manticoran Alliance. Or is the assumption that with the Grand Alliance the Manticoran Alliance is less relevant?

(When you ass-u-me...)


You kind of have to guess from context when just 'MA' is used. That's why I and some others use 'MAlign' instead. (with the deliberate double caps,)
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Re: MA? abreviations?
Post by SWM   » Mon Sep 14, 2015 9:31 am

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kenl511 wrote:Since when did MA come to mean the Mesan Alignment? I seem to recall it meant the Manticoran Alliance. Or is the assumption that with the Grand Alliance the Manticoran Alliance is less relevant?

(When you ass-u-me...)

MA started being used for the Mesan Alignment on this forum about five years ago. For a couple years, there was an attempt by some people to promote the use of MAlign and reserve MA for Manticoran Alliance, but it failed. For the last three years, MA has usually meant Mesan Alignment.

As for the current status of the Manticoran Alliance, some have suggested that it doesn't exist any more. It was an alliance explicitly against Haven, and with the creation of the Grand Alliance that is irrelevant.
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Re: MA? abreviations?
Post by kzt   » Mon Sep 14, 2015 12:49 pm

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SWM wrote:As for the current status of the Manticoran Alliance, some have suggested that it doesn't exist any more. It was an alliance explicitly against Haven, and with the creation of the Grand Alliance that is irrelevant.

It largely disintegrated under the High Ridge government.
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Re: MA? abreviations?
Post by JohnRoth   » Mon Sep 14, 2015 2:04 pm

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Weird Harold wrote:
kenl511 wrote:Since when did MA come to mean the Mesan Alignment? I seem to recall it meant the Manticoran Alliance. Or is the assumption that with the Grand Alliance the Manticoran Alliance is less relevant?

(When you ass-u-me...)


You kind of have to guess from context when just 'MA' is used. That's why I and some others use 'MAlign' instead. (with the deliberate double caps,)


I haven't seen a huge preponderence of people using MA instead of MAlign or (occasionally) MAlignment. That may just be the threads I look at, though - I've quit looking at threads that don't interest me.
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Re: MA? abbreviations?
Post by Bill Woods   » Wed Sep 16, 2015 12:49 pm

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Weird Harold wrote:
kenl511 wrote:Since when did MA come to mean the Mesan Alignment? I seem to recall it meant the Manticoran Alliance. Or is the assumption that with the Grand Alliance the Manticoran Alliance is less relevant?

(When you ass-u-me...)

You kind of have to guess from context when just 'MA' is used. That's why I and some others use 'MAlign' instead. (with the deliberate double caps,)
Now that they've pulled out of Mesa, we also have to distinguish between them and that 'M' also, so I just go with the single-cap 'Malign'.
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Re: MA? abbreviations?
Post by BrightSoul   » Thu Sep 17, 2015 4:21 pm

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kenl511 wrote:Since when did MA come to mean the Mesan Alignment? I seem to recall it meant the Manticoran Alliance. Or is the assumption that with the Grand Alliance the Manticoran Alliance is less relevant?

(When you ass-u-me...)

Weird Harold wrote:You kind of have to guess from context when just 'MA' is used. That's why I and some others use 'MAlign' instead. (with the deliberate double caps,)
Bill Woods wrote:Now that they've pulled out of Mesa, we also have to distinguish between them and that 'M' also, so I just go with the single-cap 'Malign'.


Soon enough the correct Abbreviation will be RF. :mrgreen:
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Re: MA? abreviations?
Post by Glowfish   » Thu Sep 17, 2015 9:07 pm

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kenl511 wrote:Since when did MA come to mean the Mesan Alignment? I seem to recall it meant the Manticoran Alliance. Or is the assumption that with the Grand Alliance the Manticoran Alliance is less relevant?

(When you ass-u-me...)


Is obvious the MA is not the MA and that in the future they will become the RF, probably when they declare themselves to the SL who will be at war with the SEM, but only DW knows the details about that.

Clear?

P.D. I #"!#"#!"# hate abreviations, i don't understand why you yanks are so obsessed with them. Or should i say IDUWYYASOWT?.
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Re: MA? abreviations?
Post by hanuman   » Fri Sep 18, 2015 10:14 am

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kzt wrote:
SWM wrote:As for the current status of the Manticoran Alliance, some have suggested that it doesn't exist any more. It was an alliance explicitly against Haven, and with the creation of the Grand Alliance that is irrelevant.

It largely disintegrated under the High Ridge government.


Erewhon was the only member of the Manty Alliance that withdrew from it. I'll admit that High Ridge's policies put the alliance under severe stress, but saying that it disintegrated takes it just a bit too far, wouldn't you say?
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Re: MA? abreviations?
Post by Theemile   » Fri Sep 18, 2015 12:07 pm

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hanuman wrote:

Erewhon was the only member of the Manty Alliance that withdrew from it. I'll admit that High Ridge's policies put the alliance under severe stress, but saying that it disintegrated takes it just a bit too far, wouldn't you say?


No, Talbot and many other smaller members of the MA pulled out as well, due to High Ridge's policies and Haven's political maneuvering.
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