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Weber interview
Post by bkwormlisa   » Sat Aug 29, 2015 8:00 am

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I found the link to the interview where MWW talks about the differences in Arcanan and Sharonian physics: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jCueWzQCMHk&feature=youtu.be. It was in this thread http://forums.davidweber.net/viewtopic.php?f=6&t=6077 (which has some discussion on the subject) and the part about the multiverse is supposed to start at 1.54.56. Obviously, he talks about a lot of other things as well.
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Re: Weber interview
Post by phillies   » Sat Aug 29, 2015 9:04 am

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bkwormlisa wrote:I found the link to the interview where MWW talks about the differences in Arcanan and Sharonian physics: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jCueWzQCMHk&feature=youtu.be. It was in this thread http://forums.davidweber.net/viewtopic.php?f=6&t=6077 (which has some discussion on the subject) and the part about the multiverse is supposed to start at 1.54.56. Obviously, he talks about a lot of other things as well.


Speed of light c = infinity appears to mean no electromagnetic radiation, and really appears to mean that you cannot build electrical generators, because E and B are decoupled. Also spin-orbit coupling and hence spectra change. As an amusing consequence, where the calculation has been done as an amusing quantum mechanical calculation, if c becomes really large gold becomes a white metallic liquid very much like mercury. Newtonian mechanics and :light is an ether wave in a medium with mechanical properties, such as a local velocity for c with respect to the frame fixed on the ether", is much simpler in terms of consequences.
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Re: Weber interview
Post by Mil-tech bard   » Sat Aug 29, 2015 5:27 pm

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>Face Palm<

You all realize that diamonds only look the way they do because they slow down light while refracting it.

An infinite speed of light means diamonds and other materials like water really look different.
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Re: Weber interview
Post by n7axw   » Sat Aug 29, 2015 6:52 pm

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Mil-tech bard wrote:>Face Palm<

You all realize that diamonds only look the way they do because they slow down light while refracting it.

An infinite speed of light means diamonds and other materials like water really look different.


If the speed of light was really infinite, would we be able to see?

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Re: Weber interview
Post by Robert_A_Woodward   » Sun Aug 30, 2015 1:28 am

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n7axw wrote:
Mil-tech bard wrote:>Face Palm<

You all realize that diamonds only look the way they do because they slow down light while refracting it.

An infinite speed of light means diamonds and other materials like water really look different.


If the speed of light was really infinite, would we be able to see?

Don


Everybody is forgetting about e=mc^2 (where c is the speed of light). That equation came out of relativity combined with the mass-energy equivalence. No mass conversion to energy, no energy souce for the stars. David Weber should think of a "beter idea"
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Re: Weber interview
Post by phillies   » Sun Aug 30, 2015 11:44 am

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Robert_A_Woodward wrote:Everybody is forgetting about e=mc^2 (where c is the speed of light). That equation came out of relativity combined with the mass-energy equivalence. No mass conversion to energy, no energy souce for the stars. David Weber should think of a "better idea"


If c is infinite, stars can keep burning forever, because they consume no mass in doing whatever they are doing.
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Re: Weber interview
Post by Astelon   » Mon Aug 31, 2015 1:14 am

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I believe that you might be overthinking this. If speed of light in a vacuum was infinite, but the same as on earth in all other mediums, then things wouldn't look any different. The stars would be in different positions though.

Also principles of magnetism work on Sharona (the survey team had a compass), regardless of how it might work if light speed was infinite. (Maybe it wouldn't work in a vacuum?)

I am even less convinced that a change in the speed of light would change the fusion process of a star. The equation would need to be changed (not based on the speed of light), but you have to put in the appropriate numbers if you actually want to calculate anything.
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Re: Weber interview
Post by Howard T. Map-addict   » Mon Aug 31, 2015 2:48 pm

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He did.
His "better idea" for this series is "Magic."
For "Magic" read "Authorial Fiat."

HTM, wondering if so many Fiats being used here is the
real reason DW gave us two names for Sharona's Italy
:P :lol: :mrgreen:

Robert_A_Woodward wrote:
Everybody is forgetting about e=mc^2 (where c is
the speed of light). That equation came out of
relativity combined with the mass-energy equivalence.
No mass conversion to energy, no energy souce for
the stars. David Weber should think of a "bet{t}er idea"
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Re: Weber interview
Post by Jonathan_S   » Mon Aug 31, 2015 6:10 pm

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n7axw wrote:
Mil-tech bard wrote:>Face Palm<

You all realize that diamonds only look the way they do because they slow down light while refracting it.

An infinite speed of light means diamonds and other materials like water really look different.


If the speed of light was really infinite, would we be able to see?

Don
Certainly if the speed of light was infinite in all materials you wouldn't have refraction; and hence no lenses. So our eyes wouldn't be able to focus things.

Of course if lenses don't focus things then presumably evolution would have selected against lens-like constructions for vision. Who knows if some alternate approach might have come out that works roughly as well by other means.
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Re: Weber interview
Post by Mil-tech bard   » Wed Sep 02, 2015 10:11 am

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Regards this,

Jonathan_S wrote:Certainly if the speed of light was infinite in all materials you wouldn't have refraction; and hence no lenses. So our eyes wouldn't be able to focus things.

Of course if lenses don't focus things then presumably evolution would have selected against lens-like constructions for vision. Who knows if some alternate approach might have come out that works roughly as well by other means.


IMO, the best route is not to go there. This is a problem Steve Stirling has with his "when the fire (gunpowder) died" novels.

Messing with fundamental laws governing chemical properties would make all life impossible.

He of course grandly ignored this...and I have ignored the series after the first book.
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