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Archangels return - priests/clones w/reprogrammed memory?

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Re: Archangels return - priests/clones w/reprogrammed memory
Post by Dilandu   » Fri Aug 28, 2015 10:50 am

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ChaChaCharms wrote: I mean you have got the Geth and Cybermen for starters... God I am so far into withdrawl I am imagining the Gbaba fighting species from different universes..


Well, IF the Ark planners decided to bet on all-PICA Ark - the Gbaba probably would be exterminated in a few centuries at most. :)
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Re: Archangels return - priests/clones w/reprogrammed memory
Post by Brigade XO   » Fri Aug 28, 2015 11:36 am

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So what are the odds that children of our hero leaders and a fair sample of others get the nanite upgrades to full-brain implants?

Is there an on/off segment of the implant that would allow the impant to develop along with the growing/maturing brain? At this point, there may or may not be any wireless connections open for Safehold humans to interact with Federation technology. Of course, there MIGHT be automatic data-linking (kind of like cell phone or GPS transponders which would at least ping on a live and open implant (unless shielded/tunred off in the human) and notify "something" in the Temple that that capability has surfaced on the planet.

You have to guess that such implants would allow people access to a whole lot of whatever Federation technolgy and information was still intact on or somewhere near Safehold. Iraise interesting posibilites for post-war growth.
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Implants in children of current heros?
Post by PeterZ   » Fri Aug 28, 2015 11:45 am

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The only way I see this is if those children can be not so secretly taken away by the seijin just as the Archangels took the seijin away in Khody's time. The seijin are an acknowledged quantity now and could get away with doing that. The children leave for a time and return having been slightly altered physically but with additional gifts.

Without acknowledging the physical changes, there is no way to give them the interface. Without the interface for NEATs, the full integration with TF tech is impossible.
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Re: Archangels return - priests/clones w/reprogrammed memory
Post by Expert snuggler   » Fri Aug 28, 2015 9:57 pm

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Re: Archangels return - priests/clones w/reprogrammed memory
Post by SWM   » Fri Aug 28, 2015 11:01 pm

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quark wrote:Um, we absolutely have evidence that the picas' memories are uploaded back to the host after the ten days. I think its been mentioned a few times in the books (certainly in the beginning of OAR), and in this thread viewtopic.php?f=7&t=6072&hilit=Langhorne%27s+Big+Mistake&start=10#p155902

We also have absolute proof that occasionally people deliberately freed their electronic copies, turning them into emancipated electronic intelligences, completely independent and responsible for their own actions, and some of these intelligences were permitted to live in PICAs. See the post by runsforcelery in viewtopic.php?f=7&t=6072&p=155902&hilit=emancipated#p155902
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Re: Archangels return - priests/clones w/reprogrammed memory
Post by SWM   » Fri Aug 28, 2015 11:04 pm

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Re: Archangels return - priests/clones w/reprogrammed memory
Post by phillies   » Sat Aug 29, 2015 8:57 am

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ChaChaCharms wrote:
Dilandu wrote:The problem was, that RFC stated, that the Federation couldn'ty do that. They were close, but still a few decades away. They could not replant the memories in cloned bodies; the best that they could do, was the "emancipated PICA's", and they did not understood the long-therm consequences good enough to rely on the all-PICA civilization.


Heh... can anyone think why this would be a bad idea besides me? I mean you have got the Geth and Cybermen for starters... God I am so far into withdrawl I am imagining the Gbaba fighting species from different universes..


It would have to work really poorly to be worse than no civilization at all. And advising the gbaba "we are the humcylon, we reproduce via industrial mass production, we waste no resources on food or shelter or entertainment, and we have been hard at work converting entire planets that were not even attached to stars any more (this may have been observed in our world already) to battlefleets so, by the way, we have assigned a flotilla of star battleships to each gbaba, individually. No, you are the targets, not the commanders" might send a message.
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Re: Archangels return - priests/clones w/reprogrammed memory
Post by n7axw   » Sat Aug 29, 2015 3:47 pm

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phillies wrote:
It would have to work really poorly to be worse than no civilization at all. And advising the gbaba "we are the humcylon, we reproduce via industrial mass production, we waste no resources on food or shelter or entertainment, and we have been hard at work converting entire planets that were not even attached to stars any more (this may have been observed in our world already) to battlefleets so, by the way, we have assigned a flotilla of star battleships to each gbaba, individually. No, you are the targets, not the commanders" might send a message.


I can just hear the Gbaba war cry: "Death to the Cylons!" :(

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Re: Archangels return - priests/clones w/reprogrammed memory
Post by Dilandu   » Sat Aug 29, 2015 3:57 pm

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n7axw wrote:
I can just hear the Gbaba war cry: "Death to the Cylons!" :(

Don


Well, then the ansver would be "resistance is futile. Really". :D
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Re: Archangels return - priests/clones w/reprogrammed memory
Post by Dilandu   » Sat Aug 29, 2015 4:00 pm

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It would have to work really poorly to be worse than no civilization at all. And advising the gbaba "we are the humcylon, we reproduce via industrial mass production, we waste no resources on food or shelter or entertainment, and we have been hard at work converting entire planets that were not even attached to stars any more (this may have been observed in our world already) to battlefleets so, by the way, we have assigned a flotilla of star battleships to each gbaba, individually. No, you are the targets, not the commanders" might send a message.


Well, as previously stated - the Ark project wasn't the best, it was just the simplest avaliable. :) And generally it seems that the project was a mess from the start; the fact that Langhore through some "politic manipulations" (what politic? The Federation was near extinction and they still waste time on politics?!) was able to come in charge of the project clearly demonstrated, that the Ark designers weren't the best in that job.
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Oh well, if shortening the front is what the Germans crave,
Let's shorten it to very end - the length of Fuhrer's grave.

(Red Army lyrics from 1945)
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