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List of Honour - Honourverse
by Dauntless » Wed Aug 05, 2015 9:08 am
Dauntless Rear Admiral Posts: 1072 Joined: Thu Apr 23, 2015 12:54 pm Location: United Kingdom	What ship name do you think belongs on the list? any ship name real of fictional allowed. I'm thiking we need more of the classics so I'd like to see a Dauntless , I mean it did serve as Kim Kinison's flagship
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by Dauntless » Wed Aug 05, 2015 9:08 am

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What ship name do you think belongs on the list?

any ship name real of fictional allowed.

I'm thiking we need more of the classics so I'd like to see a Dauntless

, I mean it did serve as Kim Kinison's flagship

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Re: List of Honour - Honourverse
by cthia » Wed Aug 05, 2015 9:14 am
cthia Fleet Admiral Posts: 14951 Joined: Thu Jan 23, 2014 1:10 pm	Dauntless wrote:What ship name do you think belongs on the list? any ship name real of fictional allowed. I'm thiking we need more of the classics so I'd like to see a Dauntless , I mean it did serve as Kim Kinison's flagship And tugboats should be honored as well. What was the tug that saved so many lives at Oyster Bay? -- that's my first ballot. Son, your mother says I have to hang you. Personally I don't think this is a capital offense. But if I don't hang you, she's gonna hang me and frankly, I'm not the one in trouble. —cthia's father. Incident in ? Axiom of Common Sense
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Re: List of Honour - Honourverse

by cthia » Wed Aug 05, 2015 9:14 am

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Dauntless wrote:What ship name do you think belongs on the list?

any ship name real of fictional allowed.

I'm thiking we need more of the classics so I'd like to see a Dauntless , I mean it did serve as Kim Kinison's flagship

And tugboats should be honored as well. What was the tug that saved so many lives at Oyster Bay? -- that's my first ballot.

Son, your mother says I have to hang you. Personally I don't think this is a capital offense. But if I don't hang you, she's gonna hang me and frankly, I'm not the one in trouble. —cthia's father. Incident in ? Axiom of Common Sense

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Re: List of Honour - Honourverse
by saber964 » Wed Aug 05, 2015 10:56 am
saber964 Admiral Posts: 2423 Joined: Thu Dec 13, 2012 8:41 pm Location: Spokane WA USA	cthia wrote: Dauntless wrote:What ship name do you think belongs on the list? any ship name real of fictional allowed. I'm thiking we need more of the classics so I'd like to see a Dauntless , I mean it did serve as Kim Kinison's flagship And tugboats should be honored as well. What was the tug that saved so many lives at Oyster Bay? -- that's my first ballot. You must be referring to HMS Quay. But my vote goes to HMS Hawkwing at Selker rift, taking on a Battle Cruiser with a Destroyer. That's like the RW HMS Glowworm vs KMSf Hipper and HMS Jervis Bay vs Adm. Schemer.
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Re: List of Honour - Honourverse

by saber964 » Wed Aug 05, 2015 10:56 am

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cthia wrote:
Dauntless wrote:What ship name do you think belongs on the list?

any ship name real of fictional allowed.

I'm thiking we need more of the classics so I'd like to see a Dauntless , I mean it did serve as Kim Kinison's flagship

And tugboats should be honored as well. What was the tug that saved so many lives at Oyster Bay? -- that's my first ballot.

You must be referring to HMS Quay.

But my vote goes to HMS Hawkwing at Selker rift, taking on a Battle Cruiser with a Destroyer. That's like the RW HMS Glowworm vs KMSf Hipper and HMS Jervis Bay vs Adm. Schemer.

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Re: List of Honour - Honourverse
by Dauntless » Wed Aug 05, 2015 2:55 pm
Dauntless Rear Admiral Posts: 1072 Joined: Thu Apr 23, 2015 12:54 pm Location: United Kingdom	Yes indeed, HMS quay does deserve a place on the list
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Re: List of Honour - Honourverse

by Dauntless » Wed Aug 05, 2015 2:55 pm

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Yes indeed, HMS quay does deserve a place on the list

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Re: List of Honour - Honourverse
by munroburton » Wed Aug 05, 2015 3:12 pm
munroburton Admiral Posts: 2375 Joined: Sat Jun 15, 2013 10:16 am Location: Scotland	http://honorverse.wikia.com/wiki/List_of_Honor Some of the known ships on the List of Honour. I'm sure there are many more not called out in textev - it would strike me as very odd if 11 of 16 names in the entire history of the RMN only got added very recently, after the Battle of Monica. One consideration is that some vessels bearing a listed name may later perform deeds worthy of inclusion on the List in their own right - for instance, the second Fearless at Second Yeltsin or multiple Nikes. Another consideration is that a pool of several hundred names are constantly recycled, with the List names getting priority. I'm wondering how the SLN names their Reserve vessels. There are 8,000 of them and all the good names have been taken by at least 4,000 active units in Battle and Frontier Fleets. No wonder they keep naming them after Joe Buckley, despite the atrocious luck that goes with it!
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Re: List of Honour - Honourverse

by munroburton » Wed Aug 05, 2015 3:12 pm

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Some of the known ships on the List of Honour. I'm sure there are many more not called out in textev - it would strike me as very odd if 11 of 16 names in the entire history of the RMN only got added very recently, after the Battle of Monica.

One consideration is that some vessels bearing a listed name may later perform deeds worthy of inclusion on the List in their own right - for instance, the second Fearless at Second Yeltsin or multiple Nikes.

Another consideration is that a pool of several hundred names are constantly recycled, with the List names getting priority.

I'm wondering how the SLN names their Reserve vessels. There are 8,000 of them and all the good names have been taken by at least 4,000 active units in Battle and Frontier Fleets. No wonder they keep naming them after Joe Buckley, despite the atrocious luck that goes with it! :roll:

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Re: List of Honour - Honourverse
by Fox2! » Wed Aug 05, 2015 9:40 pm
Fox2! Commodore Posts: 925 Joined: Wed Feb 25, 2015 1:34 am Location: Huntsville, AL	munroburton wrote: I'm wondering how the SLN names their Reserve vessels. There are 8,000 of them and all the good names have been taken by at least 4,000 active units in Battle and Frontier Fleets. No wonder they keep naming them after Joe Buckley, despite the atrocious luck that goes with it! I suspect that most of the reserve fleet(s) are composed of ships that have "aged out" of the active fleets (e.g., those with auto cannon rather than PDLCs). They would carry their names into the Reserves. Unless the SLN has something like the "List of Honour." Then they might get renamed to allow a new, active force hull to carry the name and tradition forward, as the Reliant class Nike and Star Knight or Saganami A/B Quentin St. James did. How they might name ships that go directly into the Reserve Fleet (gotta keep those shipyards humming, you know. And the graft flowing)? Somehow, Reserve Super Dreadnaught 1500 just doesn't roll off the tongue the way that, say, GNS Honor Harrington does, as a memorial and an inspiration.
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Re: List of Honour - Honourverse

by Fox2! » Wed Aug 05, 2015 9:40 pm

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munroburton wrote:
I'm wondering how the SLN names their Reserve vessels. There are 8,000 of them and all the good names have been taken by at least 4,000 active units in Battle and Frontier Fleets. No wonder they keep naming them after Joe Buckley, despite the atrocious luck that goes with it!

I suspect that most of the reserve fleet(s) are composed of ships that have "aged out" of the active fleets (e.g., those with auto cannon rather than PDLCs). They would carry their names into the Reserves. Unless the SLN has something like the "List of Honour." Then they might get renamed to allow a new, active force hull to carry the name and tradition forward, as the Reliant class Nike and Star Knight or Saganami A/B Quentin St. James did. How they might name ships that go directly into the Reserve Fleet (gotta keep those shipyards humming, you know. And the graft flowing)? Somehow, Reserve Super Dreadnaught 1500 just doesn't roll off the tongue the way that, say, GNS Honor Harrington does, as a memorial and an inspiration.

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Re: List of Honour - Honourverse
by Theemile » Thu Aug 06, 2015 12:56 pm
Theemile Fleet Admiral Posts: 5241 Joined: Sat Feb 27, 2010 5:50 pm Location: All over the Place - Now Serving Dublin, OH	Fox2! wrote: munroburton wrote: I'm wondering how the SLN names their Reserve vessels. There are 8,000 of them and all the good names have been taken by at least 4,000 active units in Battle and Frontier Fleets. No wonder they keep naming them after Joe Buckley, despite the atrocious luck that goes with it! I suspect that most of the reserve fleet(s) are composed of ships that have "aged out" of the active fleets (e.g., those with auto cannon rather than PDLCs). They would carry their names into the Reserves. Unless the SLN has something like the "List of Honour." Then they might get renamed to allow a new, active force hull to carry the name and tradition forward, as the Reliant class Nike and Star Knight or Saganami A/B Quentin St. James did. How they might name ships that go directly into the Reserve Fleet (gotta keep those shipyards humming, you know. And the graft flowing)? Somehow, Reserve Super Dreadnaught 1500 just doesn't roll off the tongue the way that, say, GNS Honor Harrington does, as a memorial and an inspiration. If I remember correctly a portion of the new builds go directly into the Reserve after their acceptance into the SLN. The portion displaced in the active fleet is also updated and placed into the reserve. So the reserve is a hodgepodge of old and new, updated and not (over half still have autocannon on them. Some, still with the new aircar smell, others as moldy and mildewy as they come ****** RFC said "refitting a Beowulfan SD to Manticoran standards would be just as difficult as refitting a standard SLN SD to those standards. In other words, it would be cheaper and faster to build new ships."
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Re: List of Honour - Honourverse

by Theemile » Thu Aug 06, 2015 12:56 pm

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Fox2! wrote:
munroburton wrote:
I'm wondering how the SLN names their Reserve vessels. There are 8,000 of them and all the good names have been taken by at least 4,000 active units in Battle and Frontier Fleets. No wonder they keep naming them after Joe Buckley, despite the atrocious luck that goes with it!

I suspect that most of the reserve fleet(s) are composed of ships that have "aged out" of the active fleets (e.g., those with auto cannon rather than PDLCs). They would carry their names into the Reserves. Unless the SLN has something like the "List of Honour." Then they might get renamed to allow a new, active force hull to carry the name and tradition forward, as the Reliant class Nike and Star Knight or Saganami A/B Quentin St. James did. How they might name ships that go directly into the Reserve Fleet (gotta keep those shipyards humming, you know. And the graft flowing)? Somehow, Reserve Super Dreadnaught 1500 just doesn't roll off the tongue the way that, say, GNS Honor Harrington does, as a memorial and an inspiration.

If I remember correctly a portion of the new builds go directly into the Reserve after their acceptance into the SLN. The portion displaced in the active fleet is also updated and placed into the reserve. So the reserve is a hodgepodge of old and new, updated and not (over half still have autocannon on them. Some, still with the new aircar smell, others as moldy and mildewy as they come

******
RFC said "refitting a Beowulfan SD to Manticoran standards would be just as difficult as refitting a standard SLN SD to those standards. In other words, it would be cheaper and faster to build new ships."

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Re: List of Honour - Honourverse
by noblehunter » Thu Aug 06, 2015 1:26 pm
noblehunter Captain (Junior Grade) Posts: 385 Joined: Tue Aug 04, 2015 8:49 pm	At this point the Reserve naming scheme can be simplified into: Target 1, target 2, target 3, etc. ETA: Regarding the list, Henke's flaghsip while she was with 8th fleet was the Ajax? It seems like a good candidate.
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by noblehunter » Thu Aug 06, 2015 1:26 pm

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At this point the Reserve naming scheme can be simplified into: Target 1, target 2, target 3, etc. :twisted:

ETA: Regarding the list, Henke's flaghsip while she was with 8th fleet was the Ajax? It seems like a good candidate.

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Re: List of Honour - Honourverse
by Dauntless » Thu Aug 06, 2015 2:54 pm
Dauntless Rear Admiral Posts: 1072 Joined: Thu Apr 23, 2015 12:54 pm Location: United Kingdom	a warship named after a warrior is never a bad choice. I was half expecting to see things like "Lucky Leprachun" or maybe "Caron's Rift"
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Re: List of Honour - Honourverse

by Dauntless » Thu Aug 06, 2015 2:54 pm

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a warship named after a warrior is never a bad choice.

I was half expecting to see things like "Lucky Leprachun" or maybe "Caron's Rift"

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Re: List of Honour - Honourverse
by Fox2! » Thu Aug 06, 2015 8:16 pm
Fox2! Commodore Posts: 925 Joined: Wed Feb 25, 2015 1:34 am Location: Huntsville, AL	Theemile wrote:... So the reserve is a hodgepodge of old and new, updated and not (over half still have autocannon on them. Some, still with the new aircar smell, others as moldy and mildewy as they come It's possible that every SD (at least) the SLN has ever owned sits orbiting some dead planet as part of the "Reserve Fleet." Except, of course, for those destroyed at Spindle or 2nd Manticore (recognizing those who insist that the battle against the Brotherhood should really be considered 1st Manticore, Axelrod/Volsung as 2nd, the Haven invasion as 3rd and Filaretta 4th). Not to change the topic, but is there any textev that the Brotherhood actually made it into Manticore local space before they were defeated? Might they have been engaged in some system far, far, away (at least from Manticore)?
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Re: List of Honour - Honourverse

by Fox2! » Thu Aug 06, 2015 8:16 pm

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Theemile wrote:... So the reserve is a hodgepodge of old and new, updated and not (over half still have autocannon on them. Some, still with the new aircar smell, others as moldy and mildewy as they come

It's possible that every SD (at least) the SLN has ever owned sits orbiting some dead planet as part of the "Reserve Fleet."

Except, of course, for those destroyed at Spindle or 2nd Manticore (recognizing those who insist that the battle against the Brotherhood should really be considered 1st Manticore, Axelrod/Volsung as 2nd, the Haven invasion as 3rd and Filaretta 4th).

Not to change the topic, but is there any textev that the Brotherhood actually made it into Manticore local space before they were defeated? Might they have been engaged in some system far, far, away (at least from Manticore)?

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