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by cthia » Thu Jul 23, 2015 6:38 pm | |
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I don't recall it having happened but D'Orville and Kuzak both should have been awarded the PMV for the Battle Of Manticore. If I missed it, my apologies.
And I always thought Admiral Courvosier should have been given the PMV, posthumously, for defending Grayson with his life. Question, Admiral Courvosier was on a diplomatic mission and not on active duty. If you are not on active duty yet still perform for your navy in the manner that he did, is he technically eligible for a medal? Son, your mother says I have to hang you. Personally I don't think this is a capital offense. But if I don't hang you, she's gonna hang me and frankly, I'm not the one in trouble. —cthia's father. Incident in ? Axiom of Common Sense |
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by SharkHunter » Thu Jul 23, 2015 7:33 pm | |
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--snipping--
I'd hazard a guess that by no Tremaine probably also has the Manticoran Cross, given that he was part of Honor's crew in (by abbreviations) {OBS, HotQ, HoE, EoH, then a part of the "winning team" in EoH,AoV, WoH Marsh, survived WWH, won at spindle in MoH } 10 actions? I'd say he's got all of the hardware he wants EXCEPT the PMV which I doubt he's trying to add.[/quote] ---------------------
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by saber964 » Thu Jul 23, 2015 8:15 pm | |
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More than likely Grayson awarded a small boatload of decorations to both Courvosier and Yanakov. Like what happened to Harrington. Also IIRC Capirilli mused that Honor should have after Hancock and fourth Yeltsin. |
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by Dafmeister » Fri Jul 24, 2015 4:46 am | |
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Hazarded, definitely. Unnecessarily... that's a judgement call. Had she lost her ship, or made it to Manticore but too late for reinforcements to get to Yeltsin before Masada conquered the system, the judgement might well have been different. As it was, she took a calculated risk which resulted in the survival of HMS Fearless, not to mention ensuring that any survivors from Fearless and Troubadour weren't treated the way Madrigal's survivors were. And there's the small matter of securing the status of a Crown ally and arguably preventing the outbreak of open war with the PRH for an extra two years, buying time for the rollout of the new missile pods and the completion of Hancock Station, among other things. |
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by cthia » Sat Jul 25, 2015 6:29 pm | |
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Whether possible or no, DSO for Thomas Bachfisch.
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by OrlandoNative » Sat Jul 25, 2015 7:14 pm | |
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I would tend to agree. History is replete with examples. In many cases, the person hastening back to give news or intelligence updates may have run, ridden a horse, or used some other "individual" conveyance, but the principle is the same. Some of them died, either trying or after successfully giving the message. To get from Yeltsin to Manticore she needed a ship, and a ship has a crew to run it. It's not an individual conveyance. No doubt if there was some small craft available that could make the journey at high enough speed to be useful, she would have used it. There have even been historical examples of battles against overwhelming odds, where the intent was not necessarily to win and live though, but just to inflict enough damage on the foe to make him pause or change plans. Dolittle's firebombing of Japan in WWII is an example; due to detection and thus a required early takeoff, he *knew* the planes wouldn't have enough fuel to reach unoccupied China. But they went anyway. Taking a risk is part of military life and career. As noted, you just try to ensure it's reasonable given the alternatives. "Yield to temptation, it may not pass your way again."
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