HFQ snippet request

BarryKirk wrote:Wow. We've got thread drift in the snippet request thread.

We just as well entertain ourselves. Snippets or no snippets, we are down to about three months before HFQ comes out.

Don

n7axw wrote:

BarryKirk wrote:Wow. We've got thread drift in the snippet request thread.

We just as well entertain ourselves. Snippets or no snippets, we are down to about three months before HFQ comes out.

Don

LOL, unless they find a reason to delay it yet again

I'm sure that there won't be a snippet today.

RFC will be off celebrating a 250 year old act of stupidity.

No revolution ever benefits the people of the country concerned, it merely changes those on the top of the pile and usually for the worse.

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I must disagree chrisd and to make my point I will use the Russian Revolution, you know the one in 1917. The easy way to prove that benefitted the Russians is that in 1914 and the following years they got clobbered by the Germans. In 1941, they were able to fend off the Germans(with substantial help in the way of supplies) and do this when the Germans controlled all of Europe except Spain, Portugal, and the British isles, They had trade with Sweden, had control of most of the Mediterranean and he no enemies capable of making a substantial landing against them and then they drove the Germans back to Berlin and did most of the work before the United States and Great Britain landed in France. That is a great benefit.

Highjohn wrote:Twitch, twitch, twitch. Must have snippet 0asf;askdfjafgasufvwekltr3iqh;bkgrasfkafkjasfk;absgk;as
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I must disagree chrisd and to make my point I will use the Russian Revolution, you know the one in 1917. The easy way to prove that benefitted the Russians is that in 1914 and the following years they got clobbered by the Germans. In 1941, they were able to fend off the Germans(with substantial help in the way of supplies) and do this when the Germans controlled all of Europe except Spain, Portugal, and the British isles, They had trade with Sweden, had control of most of the Mediterranean and he no enemies capable of making a substantial landing against them and then they drove the Germans back to Berlin and did most of the work before the United States and Great Britain landed in France. That is a great benefit.

The Tsarist regime was incompetent, agreed, but can you really claim that V.I. Ulyanov, L.D. Bronstein and V.I. Dugashvilli were an improvement?

Was Cromwell an improvement on Charles I?

Were Robespierre and Bonaparte improvements on Louis XVI?

chrisd wrote:

Highjohn wrote:Twitch, twitch, twitch. Must have snippet 0asf;askdfjafgasufvwekltr3iqh;bkgrasfkafkjasfk;absgk;as
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I must disagree chrisd and to make my point I will use the Russian Revolution, you know the one in 1917. The easy way to prove that benefitted the Russians is that in 1914 and the following years they got clobbered by the Germans. In 1941, they were able to fend off the Germans(with substantial help in the way of supplies) and do this when the Germans controlled all of Europe except Spain, Portugal, and the British isles, They had trade with Sweden, had control of most of the Mediterranean and he no enemies capable of making a substantial landing against them and then they drove the Germans back to Berlin and did most of the work before the United States and Great Britain landed in France. That is a great benefit.

The Tsarist regime was incompetent, agreed, but can you really claim that V.I. Ulyanov, L.D. Bronstein and V.I. Dugashvilli were an improvement?

Was Cromwell an improvement on Charles I?

Were Robespierre and Bonaparte improvements on Louis XVI?

How does one go about deciding what is an improvement and what wasn't?

The Romanovs were no great shakes. But what followed was a brutalization of the Russian people with the rule of terror under Lenin and later Stalin. Yet as has been pointed out, Russia was strengthened to survive WW 2. So (shrug), make your own judgment.

As for Robspierre, obviously that wasn't an improvement over Louis at all even though Louis was the end product of centuries of deterioration of Europe's aristocracy. Napoleon was different. He subjected Europe to 20 years of war, but it can be argued that his era advanced the arc of history.

Cromwell probably wasn't a revolutionary at all, but merely the temporary result of the clash between Puritan and Cavalier. At the same time, it can be said that it marked the end of Royal attempts to rule by decree without the consent of Parliament.

I think that the American Revolution has overall been the most beneficial. In most respects, it really wasn't a revolution at all. It was simply the implementation of what had become a near consensus of what passed for America's upper classes that the British crown was getting in the way of progress and has to go. And they were right. There was no longer a need for the Brits to rule those colonies which became the United States. Even with all of the mistakes, a vast majority of Americans would agree that America has been good for its people.

Don

I was really hoping to celebrate independence day by reading one of the snippets that I am so dependent upon, lol

Undercover Fat Kid wrote:I was really hoping to celebrate independence day by reading one of the snippets that I am so dependent upon, lol

Me too. Though the day is not over with yet. And I have noticed in the past that RFC tends to put snippets up at night rather than the morning. So all hope is not yet lost.

Henry Brown wrote:

Undercover Fat Kid wrote:I was really hoping to celebrate independence day by reading one of the snippets that I am so dependent upon, lol

Me too. Though the day is not over with yet. And I have noticed in the past that RFC tends to put snippets up at night rather than the morning. So all hope is not yet lost.

I'm no longer expecting the snippet, so that way if and when it shows up, I can be pleasantly surprised.

Don

n7axw wrote:I'm no longer expecting the snippet, so that way if and when it shows up, I can be pleasantly surprised.

Don

Sir, with utmost respect, you prevaricate with the best of us.

In truth you remind me of Cassius or perhaps Queen Gertrude. Why haunt this thread if thou art indifferent to our mutual plight? Nay, deny not that thou hast protested too much and admit to thy lean and hungry look upon this forum and thread! Truth enough, thy hunger will be assuaged but only in the goodly time that is not of our choosing.

Shall not we all cast our wishes upon the waves to hope that the new tide will sweep in our desired treasure.