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by SYED » Sat May 09, 2015 1:42 am | |
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While they lost alot of the coastal assets and had their shipping gutted, their military is largly intact. Do we know if the church at least helped them to rebuild, or used them as a source of materials. I doubt they are shiping out a lot, so they might be better armed than the empire, as they are not supplying harchong.
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by isaac_newton » Sat May 09, 2015 5:47 am | |
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hmmmmm - I see what you mean about the colours - against that bright green background the differences are rather less than marked! I'm tending toward the SH provinces. Someone else suggested they might be princedoms - but I see that Transhar in West Haven is shown as a princedom. BTW love that quote, and the subtle use... I tend to use it when my speiling geos a bit erratic |
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by Isilith » Sat May 09, 2015 11:43 am | |
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Honestly, logic would point to that map being in error. I am with you, I don't see how the listed border could support their population. Ashton in Delf would make it seem a little better. |
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by Isilith » Sat May 09, 2015 11:44 am | |
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Because Transhar IS a princedom, and part of the Border States, not a part of Harchong. |
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by isaac_newton » Sat May 09, 2015 2:05 pm | |
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That was exactly my point! |
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by Louis R » Sun May 10, 2015 2:15 pm | |
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isaac is being obscure, to put it mildly:
I think his main point was that the independent states of Haven are also not marked off by the line used for clear international boundaries in the north - which isn't the same form, although it is the same colour, as the one used in the south. However, Transhar is clearly identified as a Princedom, where Selkar, Myratha and Ashton aren't. The problem with that thought is that either Sardahn, Jhurlahnk, Faralas and Sabana have a complex political organisation without a clear sovereign prince, or once again, the prince's title isn't included on the map. We actually have exactly the same situation WRT the eastern border of Harchong on Haven as on Howard. To whit, the maps aren't really intended for anybody but Himself so they aren't entirely useful to anybody else.
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by n7axw » Sun May 10, 2015 5:49 pm | |
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Geographical info on the maps usually is filled in as the story progresses. I believe it has been stated elsewhere that RFC wants flexibility on the details of the maps until the story relavant to that region is written. With the exception of Delferak and the region around Ithyria, Howard really hasn't played much of a role in the story, at least so far. Don When any group seeks political power in God's name, both religion and politics are instantly corrupted.
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by SYED » Mon May 11, 2015 1:32 am | |
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if the church influence is greatly damaged, i wonder what conflicts will appear over rivalries and vendettas.
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by isaac_newton » Mon May 11, 2015 5:10 am | |
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Sorry - wasn't meaning to be obscure. You are correct, I think - my eyes had skipped over those other entities - was just looking for princedoms at the time. Also correct about the maps purpose - on the other hand it does give us hours of fun |
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by Louis R » Mon May 11, 2015 1:09 pm | |
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Oh, I'm all for it!
Just thought that a reminder was in order. We don't really know as much as having maps leads some to think we do, so there's no point in going at it hammer and tongs.
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