[Spoiler(?)] Inner Circle

Joe wrote:Tagged as spoilers as some might not have read far enough to want this kind of complete set.

But quick question, is there a comprehensive list somewhere that includes everyone inducted into Merlin's inner circle as of LaMA? I'm currently in the chapter of LaMA where (not much of a spoiler but I am describing part of the story here, so again, tentatively a spoiler) Howsmyn, Dom Staynair, Ironhill and Taigys Mahldyn are discussing new artillery and I cannot for the life of me remember if Ironhill had been inducted or not, and it makes the dialogue confusing. Just curious if anyone had a complete list they could post, it would be an incredibly useful reference for me.

JeffEngel wrote:

Joe wrote:(Asking if there is a complete inventory of inner circle members.)

No spoiler warning needed here. Forum convention calls for them discussing bits from books out a month or less, and snippets from books not yet published. (Yeah, I know, I forget myself on the snippets a lot - I'm better about remembering what the rules are than following them, darn it.)

If there is such a list, I don't have it. It would be handy for someone to refer to re-reading at least or constructed as they go. The Safehold wiki has an entry for it, but it's badly out of date, if it was exhaustive at any time.

I can't recall if Ironhill was a member then or yet with confidence, but I think not.

Joe wrote:Tagged as spoilers as some might not have read far enough to want this kind of complete set.

But quick question, is there a comprehensive list somewhere that includes everyone inducted into Merlin's inner circle as of LaMA? I'm currently in the chapter of LaMA where (not much of a spoiler but I am describing part of the story here, so again, tentatively a spoiler) Howsmyn, Dom Staynair, Ironhill and Taigys Mahldyn are discussing new artillery and I cannot for the life of me remember if Ironhill had been inducted or not, and it makes the dialogue confusing. Just curious if anyone had a complete list they could post, it would be an incredibly useful reference for me.

McGuiness wrote:

Joe wrote:Tagged as spoilers as some might not have read far enough to want this kind of complete set.

But quick question, is there a comprehensive list somewhere that includes everyone inducted into Merlin's inner circle as of LaMA? I'm currently in the chapter of LaMA where (not much of a spoiler but I am describing part of the story here, so again, tentatively a spoiler) Howsmyn, Dom Staynair, Ironhill and Taigys Mahldyn are discussing new artillery and I cannot for the life of me remember if Ironhill had been inducted or not, and it makes the dialogue confusing. Just curious if anyone had a complete list they could post, it would be an incredibly useful reference for me.

Ironhill isn't a member of the inner circle as of LaMA: "Ohlsyn — the Earl of Pine Hollow and the Empire’s first councilor—was Nahrmahn Baytz’ cousin, although he was as wiry as Nahrmahn had been plump, and his brain was very nearly as sharp. He was also—like Howsmyn and Rock Point but not Ironhill—a member in good standing of the inner circle." Ironhill does know that "Merlin has visions" though. "The fact that Ironhill knew about Seijin Merlin’s “visions” had made things surprisingly simple after Prince Nahrmahn dropped his little Silverlode Island surprise..."

I don't have a full list - there's no way to actually compile one, since many members of the brethren of St. Zherneau's are unnamed priests. As for the members we know about and can put names to, I'll start the list.

Inner Circle members as of LaMA:
Merlin
Nimue
Cayleb
Sharleyan
Howsmyn
Archbishop Staynair
Admiral Staynair
Nahrmahn Baytz
Ohlyvya Baytz
Pine Hollow
Rock Point
Hektor
Irys
Doctor Sahndrah Lywys
Rahzhyr Mahklyn
Paityr Wylsynn
Baron Green Valley
Sir Dustyn Olyvyr

That's all who occurred to me off the top of my head. Please feel free to add those I overlooked to the list.

Also there are some who will soon be inducted, or who will never be inducted for various reasons. Please fill in the blanks for those if you can - I know I'm not even close to naming all of them.

SPOILERS!!!!!!!!


Coming soon...
Doctor Zhansyn Wyllys (Petro chemical expert)
Aivah
Sandaria (if she isn't put in cryo)

Desperately needed...
Earl Hanth!!!!
Earl Highmount

Never gonna happen...

1) Because it would destroy them:
Ironhill
Eastshare

2) Because they'd want to scream the truth from the rooftops:

3) Because they'd get lost in Owl's records:
Baron Seamount (also reason 2)
Taigys Mahldyn

4) Because they're doing exactly what Merlin needs them to do - innovating on their own:
A whole bunch of Howsmyn's people
Dr. Lywys until recently (I was surprised!)
Baron Seamount's entire staff (OWL cheats for them)

n7axw wrote:

McGuiness wrote:Never gonna happen...

1) Because it would destroy them:
Ironhill
Eastshare)

Is there textev for your grouping on Eastshare? I would have thought rhat he would be a candidate for the inner circle eventually. But perhaps I am missing something.

Don

McGuiness wrote:

Joe wrote:Tagged as spoilers as some might not have read far enough to want this kind of complete set.

But quick question, is there a comprehensive list somewhere that includes everyone inducted into Merlin's inner circle as of LaMA? I'm currently in the chapter of LaMA where (not much of a spoiler but I am describing part of the story here, so again, tentatively a spoiler) Howsmyn, Dom Staynair, Ironhill and Taigys Mahldyn are discussing new artillery and I cannot for the life of me remember if Ironhill had been inducted or not, and it makes the dialogue confusing. Just curious if anyone had a complete list they could post, it would be an incredibly useful reference for me.

Ironhill isn't a member of the inner circle as of LaMA: "Ohlsyn — the Earl of Pine Hollow and the Empire’s first councilor—was Nahrmahn Baytz’ cousin, although he was as wiry as Nahrmahn had been plump, and his brain was very nearly as sharp. He was also—like Howsmyn and Rock Point but not Ironhill—a member in good standing of the inner circle." Ironhill does know that "Merlin has visions" though. "The fact that Ironhill knew about Seijin Merlin’s “visions” had made things surprisingly simple after Prince Nahrmahn dropped his little Silverlode Island surprise..."

I don't have a full list - there's no way to actually compile one, since many members of the brethren of St. Zherneau's are unnamed priests. As for the members we know about and can put names to, I'll start the list.

Inner Circle members as of LaMA:
Merlin
Nimue
Cayleb
Sharleyan
Howsmyn
Archbishop Staynair
Admiral Staynair
Nahrmahn Baytz
Ohlyvya Baytz
Pine Hollow
Rock Point
Hektor
Irys
Doctor Sahndrah Lywys
Rahzhyr Mahklyn
Paityr Wylsynn
Baron Green Valley
Sir Dustyn Olyvyr

That's all who occurred to me off the top of my head. Please feel free to add those I overlooked to the list.

Also there are some who will soon be inducted, or who will never be inducted for various reasons. Please fill in the blanks for those if you can - I know I'm not even close to naming all of them.

SPOILERS!!!!!!!!


Coming soon...
Doctor Zhansyn Wyllys (Petro chemical expert)
Aivah
Sandaria (if she isn't put in cryo)

Desperately needed...
Earl Hanth!!!!
Earl Highmount

Never gonna happen...

1) Because it would destroy them:
Ironhill
Eastshare

2) Because they'd want to scream the truth from the rooftops:

3) Because they'd get lost in Owl's records:
Baron Seamount (also reason 2)
Taigys Mahldyn

4) Because they're doing exactly what Merlin needs them to do - innovating on their own:
A whole bunch of Howsmyn's people
Dr. Lywys until recently (I was surprised!)
Baron Seamount's entire staff (OWL cheats for them)

saber964 wrote:Under your desperately needed or coming soon Sir Coryn Gahrvy and Earl Coris, maybe the Earls Anvil Rock and Tartairin.

n7axw wrote:

McGuiness wrote:*quote="Joe"*Tagged as spoilers as some might not have read far enough to want this kind of complete set.

But quick question, is there a comprehensive list somewhere that includes everyone inducted into Merlin's inner circle as of LaMA? I'm currently in the chapter of LaMA where (not much of a spoiler but I am describing part of the story here, so again, tentatively a spoiler) Howsmyn, Dom Staynair, Ironhill and Taigys Mahldyn are discussing new artillery and I cannot for the life of me remember if Ironhill had been inducted or not, and it makes the dialogue confusing. Just curious if anyone had a complete list they could post, it would be an incredibly useful reference for me.*quote*Ironhill isn't a member of the inner circle as of LaMA: "Ohlsyn — the Earl of Pine Hollow and the Empire’s first councilor—was Nahrmahn Baytz’ cousin, although he was as wiry as Nahrmahn had been plump, and his brain was very nearly as sharp. He was also—like Howsmyn and Rock Point but not Ironhill—a member in good standing of the inner circle." Ironhill does know that "Merlin has visions" though. "The fact that Ironhill knew about Seijin Merlin’s “visions” had made things surprisingly simple after Prince Nahrmahn dropped his little Silverlode Island surprise..."

I don't have a full list - there's no way to actually compile one, since many members of the brethren of St. Zherneau's are unnamed priests. As for the members we know about and can put names to, I'll start the list.

Inner Circle members as of LaMA:
Merlin
Nimue
Cayleb
Sharleyan
Howsmyn
Archbishop Staynair
Admiral Staynair
Nahrmahn Baytz
Ohlyvya Baytz
Pine Hollow
Rock Point
Hektor
Irys
Doctor Sahndrah Lywys
Rahzhyr Mahklyn
Paityr Wylsynn
Baron Green Valley
Sir Dustyn Olyvyr

That's all who occurred to me off the top of my head. Please feel free to add those I overlooked to the list.

Also there are some who will soon be inducted, or who will never be inducted for various reasons. Please fill in the blanks for those if you can - I know I'm not even close to naming all of them.

SPOILERS!!!!!!!!


Coming soon...
Doctor Zhansyn Wyllys (Petro chemical expert)
Aivah
Sandaria (if she isn't put in cryo)

Desperately needed...
Earl Hanth!!!!
Earl Highmount

Never gonna happen...

1) Because it would destroy them:
Ironhill
Eastshare

2) Because they'd want to scream the truth from the rooftops:

3) Because they'd get lost in Owl's records:
Baron Seamount (also reason 2)
Taigys Mahldyn

4) Because they're doing exactly what Merlin needs them to do - innovating on their own:
A whole bunch of Howsmyn's people
Dr. Lywys until recently (I was surprised!)
Baron Seamount's entire staff (OWL cheats for them)

Is there textev for your grouping on Eastshare? I would have thought rhat he would be a candidate for the inner circle eventually. But perhaps I am missing something.

Don

n7axw wrote:

saber964 wrote:Under your desperately needed or coming soon Sir Coryn Gahrvy and Earl Coris, maybe the Earls Anvil Rock and Tartairin.

I can see Sir Koryn and Earl Coris and possibly Charlz Doyle. I think the other earls are a bit too much of a stretch...

Don