Freedom in the Madras Sector

JohnRoth wrote:

SWM wrote:We do know how far Visigoth is from Sol. 13 days by courier is about 100 light-years. So, Visigoth is 100 light-years from Sol. Beowulf to Sol is 40 light-years, and Visigoth to Beowulf is 60 light-years. Therefore Beowulf is almost directly between Visigoth and Sol. The text mentioned Beowulf only because Beowulf happens to be almost directly on the line from Visigoth to Sol.

Right -- assuming White Haven doesn't think they'll stop off at Beowulf. Granted, there's no obvious reason why they should stop at Beowulf, but if he's including a stop there for some utterly unknown reason, then the straight-line solution doesn't work any more.

SWM wrote:

JohnRoth wrote:<SNIP>

Right -- assuming White Haven doesn't think they'll stop off at Beowulf. Granted, there's no obvious reason why they should stop at Beowulf, but if he's including a stop there for some utterly unknown reason, then the straight-line solution doesn't work any more.

The straight-line solution does still work, because the only way that it could be 40 ly from Sol to Beowulf and 60 ly from Beowulf to Visigoth and 100 ly from Sol to Visigoth is if the three systems are nearly in a straight line.

In any case, it doesn't matter. We know that Visigoth to Sol is 100 ly because of the travel time. The distance from Visigoth to Sol is what the side-debate was all about.

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On the gripping hand, why would Beowulf be informed of anything in a hurry? Why not just pass by in hyper, rather than slow down and delay (even if you cross the hyper limit on your way)?

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Theemile wrote:

akira.taylor wrote:<snip>
On the gripping hand, why would Beowulf be informed of anything in a hurry? Why not just pass by in hyper, rather than slow down and delay (even if you cross the hyper limit on your way)?

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The queestion to that is who is alerting who and why?

Is it a news courier? - yes they will stop by Beowulf to get the news out to Billions of paying customers.

Is it a Visigoth Defense Force courier looking for assistance? Yes they will stop at Beowulf, however shortly, to see if a SLN task force is in town and to ask the BSDF for assistance.

Is is a SLN courier? He will run straight to Sol to report in.

akira.taylor wrote:<snip>
On the gripping hand, why would Beowulf be informed of anything in a hurry? Why not just pass by in hyper, rather than slow down and delay (even if you cross the hyper limit on your way)?

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Theemile wrote: The queestion to that is who is alerting who and why?

Is it a news courier? - yes they will stop by Beowulf to get the news out to Billions of paying customers.

Is it a Visigoth Defense Force courier looking for assistance? Yes they will stop at Beowulf, however shortly, to see if a SLN task force is in town and to ask the BSDF for assistance.

Is is a SLN courier? He will run straight to Sol to report in.

akira.taylor wrote: Good point. I don't remember the incident, so I guess I just figured it was SLN.

"At least we can get our diplomatic note in the first," his brother pointed out. "The message turnaround time from New Tuscany to Old Terra is only about twenty-five days by way of Manticore and the Junction. It's a lot longer for anyone trying to work around the outside of our communication loop. New Tuscany to Meyers is over five T-weeks for a dispatch boat, and it's over six T-weeks even for a message direct from New Tuscany to Mesa." White Haven grimaced, as if the system name physically tasted bad. "From there, it's another thirteen T-days or so to Old Terra by way of the Visigoth Junction and Beowulf. If they waste time following protocol and report to Meyers first, it'll take them right on eighty-six days—damned close to three T-months—just to get their first report back to Sol. Of course, assuming that we're right about Manpower's involvement, they probably will send dispatches directly by way of Mesa and Visigoth and get them there in only sixty-seven days or so, but even on that basis, our note will be there in less than half the time."

n7axw wrote:The notion of Thurgood's taskforce being given to Meyers does make sense.

I'm not sure the rest of it does, though. Meyers doesn't really face a threat, for one thing. The SLN certainly isn't going to be poking its nose back in there And risk another confrontation with Manties at this juncture. And the League is shortly going to have more immediate concerns than remote little Meyers.

So Thurgood's squadron plus the LACs should be enough for now. Maybe not forever, but for now.

Then too, Manticore can't afford to be too generous in parcelling out its hulls. Remember OB? Until her industrial plant is back on line, the RMN is going to need every modern ship she can scape up for the mission at hand.

Don

stewart wrote:

n7axw wrote:The notion of Thurgood's taskforce being given to Meyers does make sense.

I'm not sure the rest of it does, though. Meyers doesn't really face a threat, for one thing. The SLN certainly isn't going to be poking its nose back in there And risk another confrontation with Manties at this juncture. And the League is shortly going to have more immediate concerns than remote little Meyers.

So Thurgood's squadron plus the LACs should be enough for now. Maybe not forever, but for now.

Then too, Manticore can't afford to be too generous in parcelling out its hulls. Remember OB? Until her industrial plant is back on line, the RMN is going to need every modern ship she can scape up for the mission at hand.

Don

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Don --

Then again, SEM does not need to parcel out "its" fleet; not to re-open the debate from the other thread, but there are several CA's and DD's from Crandall's fleet that surrendered intact.
Those x-SLN CA's and DD's will have the same internal hardware as Thurgood's escorts -- commonality of hardware is a good thing from a maintenance support viewpoint.
For that matter, there were some repair and stores ships in Crandall's fleet as well.

-- Stewart

stewart wrote:

n7axw wrote:The notion of Thurgood's taskforce being given to Meyers does make sense.

I'm not sure the rest of it does, though. Meyers doesn't really face a threat, for one thing. The SLN certainly isn't going to be poking its nose back in there And risk another confrontation with Manties at this juncture. And the League is shortly going to have more immediate concerns than remote little Meyers.

So Thurgood's squadron plus the LACs should be enough for now. Maybe not forever, but for now.

Then too, Manticore can't afford to be too generous in parcelling out its hulls. Remember OB? Until her industrial plant is back on line, the RMN is going to need every modern ship she can scape up for the mission at hand.

Don

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Don --

Then again, SEM does not need to parcel out "its" fleet; not to re-open the debate from the other thread, but there are several CA's and DD's from Crandall's fleet that surrendered intact.
Those x-SLN CA's and DD's will have the same internal hardware as Thurgood's escorts -- commonality of hardware is a good thing from a maintenance support viewpoint.
For that matter, there were some repair and stores ships in Crandall's fleet as well.

-- Stewart