PeterZ wrote:The only Vicars untainted with the jihad are dead. All the others voted for the jihad when the Grand Vicar proposed it. Clyntahn would not have let any vicar voting against the jihad to live when he purged the Vicarate. Who would be untouched by the jihad? I suspect no one.
** In other words a clean sweep is in order, if Duchairn is going to be honest about things, but do you really expect him to surrender the vicarate and temple etc to the Reformists?
Do you really think all the rest of the corruption that is the CoGA administration would ever let him even try?
So if he did, what is the most obvious and probable reaction by the other 99.99%?
Other posters have pointed to the circle's younger survivors to replace the vicarate etc, although getting them to accept positions in the still corrupt CoGA seems too big of a whopper to swallow.
Convincing them to help prop up the corruption that tortured and killed their friends and murdered millions is too fantastic, in fact it will be something I want to see in RFC's own words before I'll credit it being even in the realm of the possible.
Because I kinda suspect among other things they know it'd all be a sham because they wouldn't be accepted by the rest of the CoGA, especially the remaining hierarchy, unless you have then all executed first, including Duchairn.**
As for Duchairn, wouldn't Nynian have a good idea of Duchairn's mindset? I suspect so.
** That's a given, it doesn't mean it changes the equation enough to twist things your way.
To even try to convince anyone in Siddarmark or the EoC that the rest of the Go4 isn't guilty of procuring and encouraging murdering millions boggles the mind.
From the view of Siddarmark and the EoC Duchairn appears to be doing all he can to make the jihad work.
What kinds of good will gestures do you think Duchairn and CoGA owe Siddarmark and the EoC as preconditions to any offer of a truce?**
Bottom line is that an offer for a cease fire from Duchairn to at least discuss minimum requirements for a negotiated peace in person with Cayleb and Stonar would benefit Siddermark most. The few months of truce would let the RSA recruit and equip enough new units to be independent of the ICA. Sure the AoG would also gain more rifles, but the allies would increase their capabilities more.
** Sorry, the primary limitation on the RSA fielding more rifle divisions has been the bottleneck of rifles to equip more.
Since the EoC should deliver some 250,000 M96's to Siddarmark in 897, so the ICA can then turn their year old Mahndrayns over to the RSA, which in combination with the republic's new production and captured stocks will enable the current 30 division force [15 still training through the spring] to be at least doubled by the end of the year.
There should be no trouble with maintaining the RSA's division-making machine at the same pace in 898, and the best RSA divisions could receive M96's that year as well.
Given the alliance's superior weapons, no pause to reorganize and improve training etc while letting the enemy regains some of his strength is necessary nor wise.
The idea the Lord Protector and his ministers, NTM who suffered from the SoS is willing to give the CoGA another chance to kill or destroy the republic seems to be from smoking something that's still generally illegal in this country.
From the textev I find it exceedingly difficult to imagine any of the characters you mention arguing your case, especially with your ridiculously fanatical fervor.
Secondly you claim that such a short peace period would enable the RSA to become independent of the ICA.
Really?
Why is that so immediately important to you?
The time to fully reorganize and retrain the RSA to fully exploit the experience and capabilities the ICA has developed will take years, not a few month's; NTM since technically, starting such changes could make things worse.
The Lord Protector and his ministers know that better than you apparently, and would never be so brain dead as to fooled by such stupidity.
Given how important the alliance is to the future plans of Merlin and the inner circle, why do you want to subvert it as soon as possible?
Claiming such silliness when you know any pause would help the CoGA more is deceitful.**
Siddermark will accept a cease fire in place. Duchairn can convince Cayleb and Stonar that they can achieve their publically stated goal through negotiations. If the actual negotiations take too long, the allies can begin shooting. I don't see the upside in the allies not listening to the initial (post Clyntahn) offer to negotiate.
** Seriously?
On what basis can you claim that Siddarmark will accept a cease fire in place?
Or that Duchairn can convince Cayleb and Stohnar etc, other than you wish it?
Can you list what the alliance war aims are, since we've never had them listed?
The very idea of Siddarmark accepting a cease fire in place is ludicrous if not pathetic.
Duchairn may want to negotiate because he recognizes how desperate the CoGA situation is, but that doesn't mean he'll be able to.
Again, the CoGA far fanatical right will insist on continuing the fight, ie "no truce with heretics" etc; and how will Duchairn stop them when he doesn't have an army left any more?
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n7axw wrote:*quote="PeterZ"*
Of course they are accessories. Yet, if they are willing to truly reform and execute reforms that Reformists will be happy with, can they be worked with? I suspect the CoC and Reformists will agree to work with them. Perhaps, their punishments if any will be part of the resultant negotiated reforms. Depending on the conditions at the time of the cease fire, this might well be a viable alternative to all parties involved.*quote*
No, I think they have to go and someone untainted by the jihad has to step up. I'm not saying that they should automaticly face execution, but they should face whatever penalty that the allies decide justice demands after a fair trial and be deprived of their positions. They have been too much a part of the problem to be part of the solution.
Don