Spoiler Will a main good guy character die this book?

At the moment the good guys have a good head of steam in military victories and consolidating the empire and the Eastern Siddarmark.

So will David kill off a main character good guy in this forth coming book in the Temples response to the battles happening?

Caleb for example?

Alistair wrote:At the moment the good guys have a good head of steam in military victories and consolidating the empire and the Eastern Siddarmark.

So will David kill off a main character good guy in this forth coming book in the Temples response to the battles happening?

Caleb for example?

One snippet looks grim for Thirsk. I'd count him as a good guy, just on the wrong side.

Should something happen to Magaiwr the last brake on Clynton's excesses would be removed possibly leading to outright rebellion(s) among the faithful.

Poker

Sheer speculation doesn't constitute a spoiler, Alistair

I know I'm in the minority on this one, but I think Thirsk is toast. We'll have to see how it works out.

Don

n7axw wrote:I know I'm in the minority on this one, but I think Thirsk is toast. We'll have to see how it works out.

Don

Hi Don, I agree with you on this. As I recall from the snippet, it was Thirsk's trusted friend pulling the trigger. I don't think that was an elaborate ploy to fake Thirsk's death. The reason I say this is that if his friend (can't remember his name) was "pretending" to kill Thirsk so he could escape, he will have a tough time explaining how Thirsk turns up alive in Charis, which the Church will eventually find out. He would then be answering a few pointed questions from the Inquisition. Knowing what we know of Thirsk, I don't see him putting his friend in that kind of dangerous position. Ergo, the bullet in that gun is real, and as you say, Thirsk is toast.

AM.

AncientMariner wrote:

n7axw wrote:I know I'm in the minority on this one, but I think Thirsk is toast. We'll have to see how it works out.

Don

Hi Don, I agree with you on this. As I recall from the snippet, it was Thirsk's trusted friend pulling the trigger. I don't think that was an elaborate ploy to fake Thirsk's death. The reason I say this is that if his friend (can't remember his name) was "pretending" to kill Thirsk so he could escape, he will have a tough time explaining how Thirsk turns up alive in Charis, which the Church will eventually find out. He would then be answering a few pointed questions from the Inquisition. Knowing what we know of Thirsk, I don't see him putting his friend in that kind of dangerous position. Ergo, the bullet in that gun is real, and as you say, Thirsk is toast.

AM.

That makes some sense, but the elaborate ploy story can still work with Khapahr quietly leaving Dohlar later on. He wouldn't be under special surveillance now or afterward (too low in rank, presumed totally loyal), so that getaway wouldn't be too hard - unlike that of a presumed-living Thirsk.

well, that makes 3 of us, anyway

Himself, having played us once by careful snippet editing, almost certainly decided to edit this one to mean exactly what it appears to say.

AncientMariner wrote:

n7axw wrote:I know I'm in the minority on this one, but I think Thirsk is toast. We'll have to see how it works out.

Don

Hi Don, I agree with you on this. As I recall from the snippet, it was Thirsk's trusted friend pulling the trigger. I don't think that was an elaborate ploy to fake Thirsk's death. The reason I say this is that if his friend (can't remember his name) was "pretending" to kill Thirsk so he could escape, he will have a tough time explaining how Thirsk turns up alive in Charis, which the Church will eventually find out. He would then be answering a few pointed questions from the Inquisition. Knowing what we know of Thirsk, I don't see him putting his friend in that kind of dangerous position. Ergo, the bullet in that gun is real, and as you say, Thirsk is toast.

AM.

n7axw wrote:I know I'm in the minority on this one, but I think Thirsk is toast. We'll have to see how it works out.

Don

I respect and look forward to your posts, but on this one I tink ya be wrong.

The snippet with Thirsk being shot is IMHO a weberism - slight of hand so to speak. Most likely a scene played in front of some notable individual to convince him Thirsk has been dealt with while leaving Alvyhn in good stead with whomever is the audience.

I am most likely wrong but given I like Thirsk and we know Alvyhn and Thirsk were plotting something . . . . . . I can only wait and see

Alistair wrote:At the moment the good guys have a good head of steam in military victories and consolidating the empire and the Eastern Siddarmark.

So will David kill off a main character good guy in this forth coming book in the Temples response to the battles happening?

Caleb for example?

Cayleb will survive the series - unless RFC does a generational jump and we learn that Cayleb has died peacefully of old age in his sleep. Should the Big Reveal allow OWL to fire up the TF nannites and medications used for prolong, Cayleb will survive for at least a couple of centuries, perhaps long enough to see the Safehold Federation fleets set off in search off the Gbaba.

The one character I do worry about is Hanth. He's undermanned, his forces are spread across a wide front, and he's about to meet the church's St. Kylmahn breech loading rifles, hand grenades, mines, and rifled artillery for the first time at Evrytyn, and he doesn't know it. He's actually going to be outgunned.

So unless the Delthak arrives in time and has the range to blow away the CoGA defenses, the allies could face a nasty butcher's bill there. I don't think they'll lose, since blowing up any of the locks on the Sheryl - Seridahn canal west of Evrytyn, would force the Dohlarans to retreat eventually, but unless Duke Eastshare shows up (which I expect he will) then Hanth is quite vulnerable to a counterattack.

Not being in the inner circle or having anyone on his staff who is exacerbates his danger. Seijin Zhevons may need to pay him a visit to save his bacon - and perhaps introduce him to the inner circle as well. Ideally Hanth would have been inducted into the inner circle before he took his initial command, since he certainly seems to be the type who could handle the Big Reveal, and he's alone at the end of a very long supply chain.

If DE army joins him, they'll be able to drive Dohlar back to its own borders and capture Dairynth, cut off the southern supply route for Kaitswyrth, (which the ICN is about to do anyway) and capture the Dairynth - Alyksberg canal, which would give the Delthak II ironclads a path to the Gulf of Dohlar, where they could take out Gorath Bay's defenses all by themselves, according to RFC.

But if Hanth is left alone and vulnerable...