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Re: OpForce against OpForce
Post by SharkHunter   » Sat Mar 14, 2015 7:08 am

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You know, it might actually be fun to "have a tourney" on some quasi/almost related but not uber-tightly controlled website, with imaginary awards and everything. Maybe BuNine could act as judges, etc. I'd most certainly play!

Thoughts?
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Re: OpForce against OpForce
Post by BobfromSydney   » Sat Mar 14, 2015 10:21 am

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Starting with the list below:

Alfredo Yu.
Warner Caslet.
Michael Oversteegen.
Lester Tourville
Michelle Henke
Alice Truman
Chien-lu Anderman
Bin hwei-Morser
Hen-zhi Seifert
Graf von Sternhafen
Hamish Alexander
Thomas Theisman
Thomas Bachfish
Pepe Bautista
Shannon Foraker
Mark Sarnow
Wesley Matthews
Genevieve Chin
Helen Zilwicki
Naomi Kaplan
Cynthia Lecter
Veronica Armstrong
One nit: you need to substitute Judah Yanakov for Wesley Matthews who was killed at Blackbird during Oyster Bay. Perhaps you meant Brent Matthews? who we haven't seen in a while.

I'm adding:
Judah Yanakov (substitution for Wesley Matthews)

Jennifer Bellefeuille
Andrea Jaruwalski
Oliver Diamato
Abigail Hearns
Aivars Terekhov
Molly Delaney


I would add "Amos Parnell" - Managing to extricate most of his fleet from a White Haven orchestrated pincer trap surprise is quite an achievement. I know he would be quite rusty but lets assume he has some time to get back into form.

I shall also add:
Sonia Hemphill
Allen Higgins
Luis Rozsak


So here are my lists:

Team 1
Hamish Alexander
Jennifer Bellefeuille
Michael Oversteegen
Judah Yanakov
Amos Parnell


Team 2
Thomas Theissman
Lester Tourville
Michelle Henke
Shannon Foraker
Allen Higgins
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Re: OpForce against OpForce
Post by roseandheather   » Sat Mar 14, 2015 10:56 am

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BobfromSydney wrote:Starting with the list below:

Alfredo Yu.
Warner Caslet.
Michael Oversteegen.
Lester Tourville
Michelle Henke
Alice Truman
Chien-lu Anderman
Bin hwei-Morser
Hen-zhi Seifert
Graf von Sternhafen
Hamish Alexander
Thomas Theisman
Thomas Bachfish
Pepe Bautista
Shannon Foraker
Mark Sarnow
Wesley Matthews
Genevieve Chin
Helen Zilwicki
Naomi Kaplan
Cynthia Lecter
Veronica Armstrong
One nit: you need to substitute Judah Yanakov for Wesley Matthews who was killed at Blackbird during Oyster Bay. Perhaps you meant Brent Matthews? who we haven't seen in a while.

I'm adding:
Judah Yanakov (substitution for Wesley Matthews)

Jennifer Bellefeuille
Andrea Jaruwalski
Oliver Diamato
Abigail Hearns
Aivars Terekhov
Molly Delaney


I would add "Amos Parnell" - Managing to extricate most of his fleet from a White Haven orchestrated pincer trap surprise is quite an achievement. I know he would be quite rusty but lets assume he has some time to get back into form.

I shall also add:
Sonia Hemphill
Allen Higgins
Luis Rozsak


So here are my lists:

Team 1
Hamish Alexander
Jennifer Bellefeuille
Michael Oversteegen
Judah Yanakov
Amos Parnell


Team 2
Thomas Theissman
Lester Tourville
Michelle Henke
Shannon Foraker
Allen Higgins


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Re: OpForce against OpForce
Post by Crown Loyalist   » Sat Mar 14, 2015 12:27 pm

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Assuming that Team A starts with Thomas Theisman and Team B starts with Hamish Alexander, and Thomas gets to pick first:

Team A
Thomas Theisman
Alfredo Yu
Mark Sarnow
Michelle Henke
Jennifer Bellefeuille

Team B
Hamish Alexander
Lester Tourville
Judah Yanakov
Alice Truman
Shannon Foraker

I figure Theisman picks Yu first, for a lot of reasons (mentor, familiarity with Grayson and Manticore, familiarity with Hamish Alexander). And then Hamish counters by picking Tourville, as the most experienced Havenite combat commander.

I put Sarnow and Yanakov as the next round of picks for the simple reason that they both have experience as big-stage strategic thinkers, and thus both have the chops to replace their bosses as overall star-nation fleet commanders if one side suffers a casualty at the top. Sarnow has been responsible for the whole of Silesia and demonstrated tremendous ability as a fleet commander, while Yanakov is Grayson's fleet commander and has a fiendishly clever tactical mind.

After that, Thomas picks Henke and Hamish counters with Truman, then Thomas dips into his own navy and takes probably his finest young fleet commander in Bellefeuille.

Foraker doesn't get picked until last for the simple reason that we've never seen her command a ship in battle, but she's a wild card that has the potential to pay off in a big way for Hamish. I doubt Theisman would be very happy about it, too.
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Re: OpForce against OpForce
Post by cthia   » Sat Mar 14, 2015 1:47 pm

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SharkHunter wrote:You know, it might actually be fun to "have a tourney" on some quasi/almost related but not uber-tightly controlled website, with imaginary awards and everything. Maybe BuNine could act as judges, etc. I'd most certainly play!

Thoughts?

Oh yes, that would be cool. An online strategic and tactical simulation of human against human. Sort of like online chess. That would weed out the Byngs, Crandalls, Santinos and Youngs. :lol:

The computer can even pick whether you are bonded or not, and assign you a cat.

But the simulations could potentially be awesome. Especially if a certain three letter character, not mentioning who (RFC) would stack the Sims deck.

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Re: OpForce against OpForce
Post by jtg452   » Sat Mar 14, 2015 3:31 pm

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Crown Loyalist wrote:
Team A
Thomas Theisman
Alfredo Yu
Mark Sarnow
Michelle Henke
Jennifer Bellefeuille

Team B
Hamish Alexander
Lester Tourville
Judah Yanakov
Alice Truman
Shannon Foraker



I'd split up Yanakov and Tourville for the sake of balance. Both are known for gambling and taking risks. Maybe swap one of them with Sarnow?
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Re: OpForce against OpForce
Post by cthia   » Sat Mar 14, 2015 6:19 pm

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Crown Loyalist wrote:Assuming that Team A starts with Thomas Theisman and Team B starts with Hamish Alexander, and Thomas gets to pick first:

Team A
Thomas Theisman
Alfredo Yu
Mark Sarnow
Michelle Henke
Jennifer Bellefeuille

Team B
Hamish Alexander
Lester Tourville
Judah Yanakov
Alice Truman
Shannon Foraker

I figure Theisman picks Yu first, for a lot of reasons (mentor, familiarity with Grayson and Manticore, familiarity with Hamish Alexander). And then Hamish counters by picking Tourville, as the most experienced Havenite combat commander.

I put Sarnow and Yanakov as the next round of picks for the simple reason that they both have experience as big-stage strategic thinkers, and thus both have the chops to replace their bosses as overall star-nation fleet commanders if one side suffers a casualty at the top. Sarnow has been responsible for the whole of Silesia and demonstrated tremendous ability as a fleet commander, while Yanakov is Grayson's fleet commander and has a fiendishly clever tactical mind.

After that, Thomas picks Henke and Hamish counters with Truman, then Thomas dips into his own navy and takes probably his finest young fleet commander in Bellefeuille.

Foraker doesn't get picked until last for the simple reason that we've never seen her command a ship in battle, but she's a wild card that has the potential to pay off in a big way for Hamish. I doubt Theisman would be very happy about it, too.

Crown Loyalist. It was a joy reading this. Interesting, insightful and humorous.
And then Hamish counters by picking Tourville, as the most experienced Havenite combat commander.

When I conceived of this scenario, I was interested in the thoughts, tactical and strategic, of everyone. And how everyone perceived each officer's relative strengths.

This is the mark of a superior strategist. Devious too. Choosing an opponent because he has inside intel on the opposition is a stroke of devious-genius. Bravo!
I put Sarnow and Yanakov as the next round of picks for the simple reason that they both have experience as big-stage strategic thinkers, and thus both have the chops to replace their bosses as overall star-nation fleet commanders if one side suffers a casualty at the top.

Your copy of the Art of War must be well worn. Needs rebinding? :D
After that, Thomas picks Henke and Hamish counters with Truman, then Thomas dips into his own navy and takes probably his finest young fleet commander in Bellefeuille.

This is why I wanted to pattern it after a game of five-on-five, because the same dynamics of the human element would apply. Each pick demands a counter move.

I'd like to see a lot more of Bellefeuille.
Foraker doesn't get picked until last for the simple reason that we've never seen her command a ship in battle, but she's a wild card that has the potential to pay off in a big way for Hamish. I doubt Theisman would be very happy about it, too

Shannon as a wild card. Doesn't that just tickle your fancy? This is a wild card that I hope RFC will someday play. He certainly has a card up his sleeve with Shannon. That would make for a heck of a curve to storyline. Or a screwball if you're the MALign.

I doubt Theisman would be very happy about it, too.

Very funny! No he won't. But he should have chosen her himself. A point that she's apt to make very pointed! :lol:

He'll pay for not choosing her!!

Oops!

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Re: OpForce against OpForce
Post by cthia   » Sat Mar 14, 2015 9:22 pm

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jtg452 wrote:
Crown Loyalist wrote:Team A
Thomas Theisman
Alfredo Yu
Mark Sarnow
Michelle Henke
Jennifer Bellefeuille

Team B
Hamish Alexander
Lester Tourville
Judah Yanakov
Alice Truman
Shannon Foraker



I'd split up Yanakov and Tourville for the sake of balance. Both are known for gambling and taking risks. Maybe swap one of them with Sarnow?

Yes, I can totally see Hamish wondering what the hell those two are doing. But potentially it'll turn out brilliant, or team Alexander could get royally reamed.

Son, your mother says I have to hang you. Personally I don't think this is a capital offense. But if I don't hang you, she's gonna hang me and frankly, I'm not the one in trouble. —cthia's father. Incident in ? Axiom of Common Sense
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Re: OpForce against OpForce
Post by BobfromSydney   » Sun Mar 15, 2015 3:42 am

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roseandheather wrote:
IS THAT THE LOVE OF MY LIFE ON YOUR LIST??

YOU ARE MY FAVORITE. PERSON. EVER.


Although I risk losing your favour, I must clarify that Sonia Hemphill is on my list of potentials rather than the final teams.

She would be in my B reserves along with Andrea Jaruwalski and Luis Rozsak however. My A-reserves would be Alfredo Yu, Aivars Terekhov and Oliver Diamato.

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I'd like to Add Scotty Tremaine to the list of potentials.

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I've also noticed that none of the Andermani are getting much love right now. Is this because of the [relative] lack of screen-time in combat? Or could it be the confusing and difficult to remember names? Apart from Chien-lu Anderman I have no idea who the rest of them are! :?

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My criteria for selection were:
* Sneakiness
* Planning Ability
* Ability to act under stress (before & during combat)
* Perceptiveness
* Leadership (ability to get the most out of their subordinates)

The idea was that I wanted both teams to have the best chance of winning the exercise against their opposition, I'm ignoring any skills not relevant to planning and winning battles.

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I would love to see what RFC's lists would be!
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Re: OpForce against OpForce
Post by roseandheather   » Sun Mar 15, 2015 8:27 am

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BobfromSydney wrote:
roseandheather wrote:
IS THAT THE LOVE OF MY LIFE ON YOUR LIST??

YOU ARE MY FAVORITE. PERSON. EVER.


Although I risk losing your favour, I must clarify that Sonia Hemphill is on my list of potentials rather than the final teams.

She would be in my B reserves along with Andrea Jaruwalski and Luis Rozsak however. My A-reserves would be Alfredo Yu, Aivars Terekhov and Oliver Diamato.

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