(SPOILERS) The solution to Baron Green Valley's logistic qua

AClone wrote:Didn't RFC rebut (extinguish, belay) the "iceboats on canals" theory already, prior to LAMA?

EdThomas wrote:I think I'm missing something here unless the ships were pre-positioned last fall.

GCM wrote:I believe the particular pack animals that BGV's army has with him are capable of foraging for their food under the snow. Also, if he gets around The AOG flank, the AOG will likely try to turn and face him, which means the EOC troops at the Gap can punch through to provide resupply. Finally, we have to figure that he will capture some AOG supplies which he can live on.

Louis R wrote:Well, currently none of the locks on the Guarnak-Ice Ash have more that one intact set of gates per flight anyway. In fact, once he was across the height of land into the Hildermoss basin, Bahrns wouldn't have had any reason to leave any gate intact behind him, and may not have done so.

However, yes, you're right: lock chambers are emptied and the lower gates left open to prevent ice damage to the lock. I think that the up-stream gates are left open or closed depending on water supply: afaik the preference is to drain the canal entirely, but if there's too much water at the upper end because the source level never drops below the canal bed even in winter the upper gates will be left closed to limit flow in the canal itself. The Rideau Canal at Ottawa is a good example: except for the highest one, the gates in the final flight of locks are left open and all the chambers drained, while the canal upstream to the next flight is half-drained - and turned into the world's longest skating rink.

What the current water levels are in the Guarnak-Ice Ash is impossible to guess. They're also impossible to manage.

BobG wrote:8quote="n7axw"*Then the question of getting the sleds past the locks which has already been mentioned. We know that the iceboats work for the temple, but that is actually crossing a lake where there is lots of room and no locks. It might work as Lyonheart has described, but I think that there could well be some problems to be solved to make it so.

Don*quote*
Has anyone considered that the locks may be left open to prevent damage when ice starts to form?

-- Bob G

BobG wrote:

n7axw wrote:Then the question of getting the sleds past the locks which has already been mentioned. We know that the iceboats work for the temple, but that is actually crossing a lake where there is lots of room and no locks. It might work as Lyonheart has described, but I think that there could well be some problems to be solved to make it so.

Don

Has anyone considered that the locks may be left open to prevent damage when ice starts to form?

-- Bob G

n7axw wrote:

GCM wrote:I believe the particular pack animals that BGV's army has with him are capable of foraging for their food under the snow. Also, if he gets around The AOG flank, the AOG will likely try to turn and face him, which means the EOC troops at the Gap can punch through to provide resupply. Finally, we have to figure that he will capture some AOG supplies which he can live on.

Is there any textev to suggest that BGV has a logistics issue at all? I can see the logic of the discussion, given the length of his supply lines, but no evidence from the text?

Don

lyonheart wrote:Hi Don,

RFC has warned us to expect the inner circle is doing the smart thing even if he doesn't mention it all in the textev.

Given the tonnages I've mentioned up thread for a 1200 mile advance over probably less than 60 days, the math indicates increasingly diminishing returns if relying solely upon animal transport.

Given RFC's track record of thinking these things out better than we have, I'm confident he has a reasonable solution, but he has been rather sneaky as well, and using ice boats/yachts seem right up BGV's [ie RFC's] alley.

L