Hot Air and the start of Flight

n7axw wrote:

TN4994 wrote:
Yes - we are all charter members of the Non Sequitur Society - We don't make sense, but we do like pizza.

With whatever beer's available.

Love beer, but with pizza would settle for diet coke...

Don[/quote]

Diet Coke ptahhh (on a par with Pepsi). Coke Zero at least tastes right.

To each his poison, I guess.

Don

n7axw wrote:To each his poison, I guess.

Don

At least Australian coke uses cane sugar not that horrible corn syrup.

AirTech wrote:

n7axw wrote:To each his poison, I guess.

Don

At least Australian coke uses cane sugar not that horrible corn syrup.

So much better to rot your insides out, or so my wife keeps telling me. I keep saying that a man of my advanced years should be entitled to his vices...

Don

Can't do diet-soda of any kind.
Allergic reaction to excess phenylalanine in soda and fat-free foods.
Not allergic to natural phenylalanine occurring in eggs, poultry, etc.
Never had a problem with aspartame before.
Evidently something has changed.
BTW, I tested negative for PKU.
Just one of those things.

When comparing the "St. Kylmahn" rifle with the Fergusson a distinction is drawn that the breech-plug orientation is changed from "vertical to the bore" to "perpendicular to the bore"

'Scuse my higgorance, but vertical and perpendicular mean the same thing to me - both are at 90º to the bore.

Is there not something amiss, as well, with Nahrman seeming to think that a single-start thread would be preferable to a multi-start one? IMO the multi-start thread would enable the breech-plug to drop clear of the breech with one half-turn rather than multiple turns; the detail that needs to be solved is preventing the breech-plug dropping all the way out.

chrisd wrote:When comparing the "St. Kylmahn" rifle with the Fergusson a distinction is drawn that the breech-plug orientation is changed from "vertical to the bore" to "perpendicular to the bore"

'Scuse my higgorance, but vertical and perpendicular mean the same thing to me - both are at 90º to the bore.

Is there not something amiss, as well, with Nahrman seeming to think that a single-start thread would be preferable to a multi-start one? IMO the multi-start thread would enable the breech-plug to drop clear of the breech with one half-turn rather than multiple turns; the detail that needs to be solved is preventing the breech-plug dropping all the way out.

Perhaps preferable from the Charisian perspective (slower to load). As for the perpendicular to the bore comment, horizontal rather than vertical? In which case you have right vs left handed issues for loading and the rifle will need to be tilted over for loading as well.

AirTech wrote:Perhaps preferable from the Charisian perspective (slower to load). As for the perpendicular to the bore comment, horizontal rather than vertical? In which case you have right vs left handed issues for loading and the rifle will need to be tilted over for loading as well.

How would horizontal boring sit with using the "Trigger-guard" as the operating handle, as stated?

"Handedness" applied to the BREN Gun, it could only really be fired "right-handed" as the box magazine on top of the breech meant that the sights were alongside the barrel on the left and the right-hand mounted cocking lever made left-handed use almost impossible.

("Sarge" always said that the BREN was "too accurate" - "Yer don't want 'Erman wiv firty 'oles in 'im. 'Im and a dozen of 'is pals wiv a coupla 'oles apiece is better")

chrisd wrote:

AirTech wrote:Perhaps preferable from the Charisian perspective (slower to load). As for the perpendicular to the bore comment, horizontal rather than vertical? In which case you have right vs left handed issues for loading and the rifle will need to be tilted over for loading as well.

How would horizontal boring sit with using the "Trigger-guard" as the operating handle, as stated?

"Handedness" applied to the BREN Gun, it could only really be fired "right-handed" as the box magazine on top of the breech meant that the sights were alongside the barrel on the left and the right-hand mounted cocking lever made left-handed use almost impossible.


("Sarge" always said that the BREN was "too accurate" - "Yer don't want 'Erman wiv firty 'oles in 'im. 'Im and a dozen of 'is pals wiv a coupla 'oles apiece is better")

I could see a somewhat awkward possibility to get extra leverage and a locking action, with a folding crank forming the trigger guard, why would be questionable.

Handedness applies to most firearms, as the action is designed to be shot from on side or the other with little details like safety location, bolt handles and ejection ports on automatic rifles (if it doesn't toss the cases straight down or up (hard) some users will wear them in use depending on how you hold it). Most firearms are designed for right handed operation. (With left handed versions being either a special order or unobtainable, some are deliberately ambidextrous, including some machine guns being able to feed from either side).
The Bren is not alone in being considered too accurate, early M2 particularly had a good rep as sniper rifles (if a little heavy to carry). The heavy barrel needed for air cooling makes them highly accurate in single shot mode, until they get well thrashed in use (and even the water cooled Vickers were good long range guns).

chrisd wrote:When comparing the "St. Kylmahn" rifle with the Fergusson a distinction is drawn that the breech-plug orientation is changed from "vertical to the bore" to "perpendicular to the bore"

'Scuse my higgorance, but vertical and perpendicular mean the same thing to me - both are at 90º to the bore.

Is there not something amiss, as well, with Nahrman seeming to think that a single-start thread would be preferable to a multi-start one? IMO the multi-start thread would enable the breech-plug to drop clear of the breech with one half-turn rather than multiple turns; the detail that needs to be solved is preventing the breech-plug dropping all the way out.

Hi Chris,

The vertical-perpendicular response was me have a senior moment. I meant diagonal to the bore. I was dismissing the possibility of the St.Kylmahn being able to use even a soft cartridge. However, if the St.Kylmahn changed the angle of the breach plug from 90 degrees to something like 120 degrees, then possibly a cartridge with some flexibility could be used. I didn't see that in Nahrmahn's evalutation, which means that the St.Kylmahn can't use cartridges, and be will slower to load than the original Mahndrayn.

I see the St.Kylmahn as allowing COGA armies to be able to fight from a prone position. RFC has given COGA angle guns, and mortars. None of them are as good as the ICA armaments, but if their generals are as good as the ICA, they can win field battles using their quantity advantage. So, if the ICA wants to keep winning battles, they have to use better stategy, better tactics, and a continuing flow of new weapons.

James