Religion After the Big Reveal (Speculation)

SWM wrote:snip
You are correct that there is no reason to believe that the Key has anything to do with the Millennial Return. We aren't suggesting that they are connected. There doesn't have to be--they could be (and appear to be) completely unrelated things. If the Key does have a personality recorded on it, then it is obviously intended to be activated when the Key used--which Schueler ordered be done only if the Church itself was in the direst of danger. Such a dire danger, threatening the very existence of the Church, would clearly be an indication of a failure of Langhorne's plan. But this activation has nothing to do with the Millennial Return. They are separate things entirely.

fallsfromtrees wrote:

SWM wrote:snip
You are correct that there is no reason to believe that the Key has anything to do with the Millennial Return. We aren't suggesting that they are connected. There doesn't have to be--they could be (and appear to be) completely unrelated things. If the Key does have a personality recorded on it, then it is obviously intended to be activated when the Key used--which Schueler ordered be done only if the Church itself was in the direst of danger. Such a dire danger, threatening the very existence of the Church, would clearly be an indication of a failure of Langhorne's plan. But this activation has nothing to do with the Millennial Return. They are separate things entirely.

Okay, I'll buy the reasoning. I do think that there is personality (probably of Schueler) on the Key, but it doesn't have anything to do with the Millenial Return. The question is, if you get control of the Temple before the return, do you activate the Key in an attempt to preclude the MR, or old it in abeyance as a last ditch attempt to muck things up if the MR goes south on you, and does you action change if you have managed to seize control of the Rakuri?

SWM wrote:snip
You are correct that there is no reason to believe that the Key has anything to do with the Millennial Return. We aren't suggesting that they are connected. There doesn't have to be--they could be (and appear to be) completely unrelated things. If the Key does have a personality recorded on it, then it is obviously intended to be activated when the Key used--which Schueler ordered be done only if the Church itself was in the direst of danger. Such a dire danger, threatening the very existence of the Church, would clearly be an indication of a failure of Langhorne's plan. But this activation has nothing to do with the Millennial Return. They are separate things entirely.

fallsfromtrees wrote:Okay, I'll buy the reasoning. I do think that there is personality (probably of Schueler) on the Key, but it doesn't have anything to do with the Millenial Return. The question is, if you get control of the Temple before the return, do you activate the Key in an attempt to preclude the MR, or old it in abeyance as a last ditch attempt to muck things up if the MR goes south on you, and does you action change if you have managed to seize control of the Rakuri?

Keith_w wrote:
As I understood it, you have to be in the temple to emplace the Key in the console, and to do that you probably need to be in control of the temple, since I would find it highly unlikely that Father Paityr could just waltz up to the temple, walk in the main entrance, have the temple guards on duty say "Hi Father, sorry about your father and uncle", and let him access the master console for the entire world (so to speak).

fallsfromtrees wrote:I've bolded the relevant section of my query. The assumption made was that you had gotten control of the Temple - which the general consensus seems to be will happen in the next couple of books, barring some unexpected twists from RFC.

fallsfromtrees wrote:I've bolded the relevant section of my query. The assumption made was that you had gotten control of the Temple - which the general consensus seems to be will happen in the next couple of books, barring some unexpected twists from RFC.

SWM wrote:You are correct that there is no reason to believe that the Key has anything to do with the Millennial Return. We aren't suggesting that they are connected. There doesn't have to be--they could be (and appear to be) completely unrelated things. If the Key does have a personality recorded on it, then it is obviously intended to be activated when the Key used--which Schueler ordered be done only if the Church itself was in the direst of danger. Such a dire danger, threatening the very existence of the Church, would clearly be an indication of a failure of Langhorne's plan. But this activation has nothing to do with the Millennial Return. They are separate things entirely.