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Re: HFQ Offical Snippet #18
Post by PeterZ   » Fri Feb 06, 2015 10:25 am

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TNT explosive filler in the KH VIIs 10" shells using smokeless propellant. Sounds devastating! :twisted:

I wonder how long before mortars, field artillery and grenades all use TNT as HE filler?

fleadermouse wrote:I think we are most likely looking at TNT here not dynamite. The detonation velocity is wrong for dynamite. Standard dynamite is 40% nitro and it detonates at about 15-16,000 fps. Extra dynamite is 60% nitro and detonates at about 19,000 fps. TNT detonates at 22,600fps which fits very nicely with the text.

Secondly, TNT makes a good shell bursting charge dynamite does not.

finally TNT can be formed into shapes like the text indicated. dynamite is nitroglycerin soaked clay (DE) that is packed into cardboard tubes.

Also RDX The active component in C4 detonates at about 29,000 fps which probably disqualifies it from consideration.
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Re: HFQ Offical Snippet #18
Post by Peter2   » Fri Feb 06, 2015 10:26 am

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Hang on a minute . . .

From snippet #16:

Lieutenant Ahrnahld Bryahnsyn stopped rubbing his hands together in a vain attempt to convince them they were warm and looked up, his expression baleful as he tried to identify the anonymous voice. It sounded like Corporal Kaillyt, who damned well ought to know better than to say something like that without identifying who was speaking.

That was his first thought. The second thought was that as reports went, it was a pretty piss poor excuse.

“Who said that?” Bryahnsyn snapped. “And what the hell are you talking about? What’s ‘what’ and where did you see it?”

“Uh, sorry, Sir.” Yes, it was Kaillyt. “It was me. And I don’t know what it was. Something moved down there in the water — moved upstream, not down.”


And now . . .

From snippet #18:

“That’s what they say, Sir. And I’m ready to take the word of anyone with big enough balls to even try setting them, myself. And the lieutenant in charge — a Lieutenant—” he glanced at the note in his hand, turning it to catch the lamplight “— Bryahnsyn, it says — lit all the fuses right on the dot at five-thirty.”


Have I got my wires crossed, or do we have two "Lieutenant Bryansyn"s – one on each side? :o
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Re: HFQ Offical Snippet #18
Post by USMA74   » Fri Feb 06, 2015 10:27 am

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Thank you for the snippet.

Take care of your better half. Family is why we do all that we do and if you have to cut off whinny posters like myself, fully understand.

Please keep us informed of your House 6's condition. She is going to be added to a lot of prayer lists.
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Re: HFQ Offical Snippet #18
Post by phillies   » Fri Feb 06, 2015 10:29 am

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Peter2 wrote:Hang on a minute . . .

From snippet #16:

Lieutenant Ahrnahld Bryahnsyn stopped rubbing his hands together in a vain attempt to convince them they were warm and looked up, his expression baleful as he tried to identify the anonymous voice. It sounded like Corporal Kaillyt, who damned well ought to know better than to say something like that without identifying who was speaking.

That was his first thought. The second thought was that as reports went, it was a pretty piss poor excuse.

“Who said that?” Bryahnsyn snapped. “And what the hell are you talking about? What’s ‘what’ and where did you see it?”

“Uh, sorry, Sir.” Yes, it was Kaillyt. “It was me. And I don’t know what it was. Something moved down there in the water — moved upstream, not down.”


And now . . .

From snippet #18:

“That’s what they say, Sir. And I’m ready to take the word of anyone with big enough balls to even try setting them, myself. And the lieutenant in charge — a Lieutenant—” he glanced at the note in his hand, turning it to catch the lamplight “— Bryahnsyn, it says — lit all the fuses right on the dot at five-thirty.”


Have I got my wires crossed, or do we have two "Lieutenant Bryansyn"s – one on each side? :o


You clearly have two of them, but not for very long, as one of them is about to encounter the ker-blammo!
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Re: HFQ Offical Snippet #18
Post by jgnfld   » Fri Feb 06, 2015 10:58 am

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That's certainly ONE way to deal with a continuity error! :)

phillies wrote:
Peter2 wrote:Hang on a minute . . .

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Have I got my wires crossed, or do we have two "Lieutenant Bryansyn"s – one on each side? :o


You clearly have two of them, but not for very long, as one of them is about to encounter the ker-blammo!
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Re: HFQ Offical Snippet #18
Post by fallsfromtrees   » Fri Feb 06, 2015 11:01 am

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Peter2 wrote:Hang on a minute . . .

From snippet #16:

Lieutenant Ahrnahld Bryahnsyn stopped rubbing his hands together in a vain attempt to convince them they were warm and looked up, his expression baleful as he tried to identify the anonymous voice. It sounded like Corporal Kaillyt, who damned well ought to know better than to say something like that without identifying who was speaking.

That was his first thought. The second thought was that as reports went, it was a pretty piss poor excuse.

“Who said that?” Bryahnsyn snapped. “And what the hell are you talking about? What’s ‘what’ and where did you see it?”

“Uh, sorry, Sir.” Yes, it was Kaillyt. “It was me. And I don’t know what it was. Something moved down there in the water — moved upstream, not down.”


And now . . .

From snippet #18:

“That’s what they say, Sir. And I’m ready to take the word of anyone with big enough balls to even try setting them, myself. And the lieutenant in charge — a Lieutenant—” he glanced at the note in his hand, turning it to catch the lamplight “— Bryahnsyn, it says — lit all the fuses right on the dot at five-thirty.”


Have I got my wires crossed, or do we have two "Lieutenant Bryansyn"s – one on each side? :o

We have already been down this road - since the piece you quote from snippet 18 was from mini snippet 2, and the LT who should have been making the report is named Hahrlys. My current thinking is typo to be corrected during proofing.
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Re: HFQ Offical Snippet #18
Post by gcomeau   » Fri Feb 06, 2015 12:23 pm

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fleadermouse wrote:I think we are most likely looking at TNT here not dynamite. The detonation velocity is wrong for dynamite. Standard dynamite is 40% nitro and it detonates at about 15-16,000 fps. Extra dynamite is 60% nitro and detonates at about 19,000 fps. TNT detonates at 22,600fps which fits very nicely with the text.

Secondly, TNT makes a good shell bursting charge dynamite does not.

finally TNT can be formed into shapes like the text indicated. dynamite is nitroglycerin soaked clay (DE) that is packed into cardboard tubes.

Also RDX The active component in C4 detonates at about 29,000 fps which probably disqualifies it from consideration.



I'd buy all that...


I'm just left feeling curious... how are these guys measuring detonation velocities of over 20,000 fps without things like high speed cameras? (I mean, I know Merlin could tell them, but that would probably raise questions among then uninitiated how exactly he knows that...hard to argue "Seijin vision" for that one...)
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Re: HFQ Offical Snippet #18
Post by PeterZ   » Fri Feb 06, 2015 12:30 pm

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I believe that the description is from an omniscient 3rd person POV, not Hanth's own thoughts. So this is the author cluing in the informed reader we are dealing with TNT and not dynamite. Hanth wouldn't have a clue what the explosive's detonation velocity is.

gcomeau wrote:
fleadermouse wrote:I think we are most likely looking at TNT here not dynamite. The detonation velocity is wrong for dynamite. Standard dynamite is 40% nitro and it detonates at about 15-16,000 fps. Extra dynamite is 60% nitro and detonates at about 19,000 fps. TNT detonates at 22,600fps which fits very nicely with the text.

Secondly, TNT makes a good shell bursting charge dynamite does not.

finally TNT can be formed into shapes like the text indicated. dynamite is nitroglycerin soaked clay (DE) that is packed into cardboard tubes.

Also RDX The active component in C4 detonates at about 29,000 fps which probably disqualifies it from consideration.



I'd buy all that...


I'm just left feeling curious... how are these guys measuring detonation velocities of over 20,000 fps without things like high speed cameras? (I mean, I know Merlin could tell them, but that would probably raise questions among then uninitiated how exactly he knows that...hard to argue "Seijin vision" for that one...)
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Re: HFQ Offical Snippet #18
Post by Randomiser   » Fri Feb 06, 2015 12:42 pm

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fallsfromtrees wrote:
We have already been down this road - since the piece you quote from snippet 18 was from mini snippet 2, and the LT who should have been making the report is named Hahrlys. My current thinking is typo to be corrected during proofing.


Nope. Lt Bryansyn (ICA) relieved Lt Harlys due to the latter's soaking and his hands shaking too much to light the fuses, and Lt Bryansyn (RDA) has just been relieved and will get exactly far enough away to survive the BOOM! Just as well really as the two Lt Bryansyn's are brothers; the RDA one being a Temple Loyalist who left Charis some years ago. It's that kind of war ;)
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Re: HFQ Offical Snippet #18
Post by Kacey   » Fri Feb 06, 2015 1:00 pm

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Thank you for the snippet
TGood thoughts prayers and well wishes to Sharon. Hopefully she will recover quickly, I know how much "fun' my wife is when she is sick.
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