Old Tilman

Okay, for all you beer-swilling snobs out there, we know that about Honor's alcoholic beverage of choice is an "Old Tilman" due to some subtle variation in the Sphinxian version of the ingredients, etc.

For us mere Earthbounds who want to SOUND like we know what we're talking about, whatdaya think the is the best "pre-diaspora", Sol-based analog for said brewed version of a beverage?

[me: teasing about the "swilling" comment, never had a beer, never will, hate the smell of hops... though I'll join Honor in the cocoa swilling faction anytime...]

HoS:

Old Tilman doesn’t actually have a precise terrestrial analog. The best way to think of it would be as a hoppy oatmeal stout with a touch of honey added for sweetness. What gives it its distinctive flavor, and the reason there isn’t a precise terrestrial analog, is that it is brewed exclusively on Sphinx using both oats and hops which have mutated/been genetically altered to suit their new environment. As a consequence, the oat-based malt has a fuller, sweeter flavor with a hint of almond and the hops are milder, not quite so bitter flavored. It’s really quite good, but I’m afraid I’m not prepared to share my personal stock of it with anyone else at this time. Sorry.

Duckk wrote:HoS:

Old Tilman doesn’t actually have a precise terrestrial analog. The best way to think of it would be as a hoppy oatmeal stout with a touch of honey added for sweetness. What gives it its distinctive flavor, and the reason there isn’t a precise terrestrial analog, is that it is brewed exclusively on Sphinx using both oats and hops which have mutated/been genetically altered to suit their new environment. As a consequence, the oat-based malt has a fuller, sweeter flavor with a hint of almond and the hops are milder, not quite so bitter flavored. It’s really quite good, but I’m afraid I’m not prepared to share my personal stock of it with anyone else at this time. Sorry.

LOL. Okay, in civilian terms that would be.... ? And yes, I'm really that clueless about beer; even comparing it to the US football advertised varieties doesn't do this feller any good... In my defense, I do make a mean cocoa though.

Come on you guys, what do you think is the Terra equivalent of Old Tilman?

Here's my suggestion

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KJas0u82j00

Beer question? Portlander to the rescue!

An oatmeal stout with a taste of honey? Hmmm...okay, then. With the caveat that it's impossible to account for the mutations/genmods that allow the oats and hops to thrive on Sphynx, the closest you're going to get would be something like Union Barrel Works' "Round Boy," a very smooth honey and oatmeal stout with some body to it. There are some oddball malts in the mix that might serve to simulate the "Sphynxian" differences (at least in terms of being something different and a bit exotic-tasting, if obviously not the same flavor).

Having been dry now for over 5 years and having consumed over twenty four 12 oz. cans of American swill horse piss beer PER 24 HOURS at times in the hay day of my earlier alcoholic life, I for one can say, based upon thousands of gallons of personal experience, (and stupidity) that the only beer worth drinking today, (which I do not) is the good old fashioned very strong, very dark English Stout. Room temperature please. Glug, glug, glug. HB of CJ (old drunk coot)

Actually sip sip sip.

HB of CJ wrote:Having been dry now for over 5 years and having consumed over twenty four 12 oz. cans of American swill horse piss beer PER 24 HOURS at times in the hay day of my earlier alcoholic life, I for one can say, based upon thousands of gallons of personal experience, (and stupidity) that the only beer worth drinking today, (which I do not) is the good old fashioned very strong, very dark English Stout. Room temperature please. Glug, glug, glug. HB of CJ (old drunk coot)

Actually sip sip sip.

Really, a BEER forum topic? Be still my thirsting tastebuds.

I admit a bias up front -- I'm partial to the dark German beers. Give me a Warsteiner Dunkel any day, and I'm a happy person.

Warsteiner Premium Dunkel is brewed exclusively of barley malt, hop extract, yeast and water according to the German purity law of 1516.

Alcohol (wt.): 4.0
Alcohol (vol.): 4.9
Color: 16.5
Bitterness: 20
Original Gravity: 1046
Final gravity: 1016.4
Malts used: Pilsner pale, crystal, Munich, roasted malt
Hops used: German hops

I'm sure others will have their faves ... but this one happens to be mine. I raise a virtual stein of Dunkel to the topic!

In my mind it fits, because I imagine the beer of Manticore would have strong English roots. I initially pictured Old Tillman as a brown ale or bitter, but stout or porter also fits. I didn't see it as a dunkel, but I'm sure the Andermani are fond of their dunkels, lagers, and rice beers.

Duckk wrote:HoS:

Old Tilman doesn’t actually have a precise terrestrial analog. The best way to think of it would be as a hoppy oatmeal stout with a touch of honey added for sweetness. What gives it its distinctive flavor, and the reason there isn’t a precise terrestrial analog, is that it is brewed exclusively on Sphinx using both oats and hops which have mutated/been genetically altered to suit their new environment. As a consequence, the oat-based malt has a fuller, sweeter flavor with a hint of almond and the hops are milder, not quite so bitter flavored. It’s really quite good, but I’m afraid I’m not prepared to share my personal stock of it with anyone else at this time. Sorry.

They could at least give us some good drinking songs...?
I mean, Grayson has baseball, Manticore has rugby-ish sports, surely there's some slightly off-color but which would pass the RFC/Sharon filters, or other ditties available, right?

Greentea wrote:In my mind it fits, because I imagine the beer of Manticore would have strong English roots. I initially pictured Old Tillman as a brown ale or bitter, but stout or porter also fits. I didn't see it as a dunkel, but I'm sure the Andermani are fond of their dunkels, lagers, and rice beers.

Duckk wrote:HoS:

Old Tilman doesn’t actually have a precise terrestrial analog. The best way to think of it would be as a hoppy oatmeal stout with a touch of honey added for sweetness. What gives it its distinctive flavor, and the reason there isn’t a precise terrestrial analog, is that it is brewed exclusively on Sphinx using both oats and hops which have mutated/been genetically altered to suit their new environment. As a consequence, the oat-based malt has a fuller, sweeter flavor with a hint of almond and the hops are milder, not quite so bitter flavored. It’s really quite good, but I’m afraid I’m not prepared to share my personal stock of it with anyone else at this time. Sorry.

["SharkHunter"]They could at least give us some good drinking songs...?
I mean, Grayson has baseball, Manticore has rugby-ish sports, surely there's some slightly off-color but which would pass the RFC/Sharon filters, or other ditties available, right?
["Greentea"]In my mind it fits, because I imagine the beer of Manticore would have strong English roots. I initially pictured Old Tillman as a brown ale or bitter, but stout or porter also fits. I didn't see it as a dunkel, but I'm sure the Andermani are fond of their dunkels, lagers, and rice beers.

["Duckk"]HoS:

Old Tilman doesn’t actually have a precise terrestrial analog. The best way to think of it would be as a hoppy oatmeal stout with a touch of honey added for sweetness. What gives it its distinctive flavor, and the reason there isn’t a precise terrestrial analog, is that it is brewed exclusively on Sphinx using both oats and hops which have mutated/been genetically altered to suit their new environment. As a consequence, the oat-based malt has a fuller, sweeter flavor with a hint of almond and the hops are milder, not quite so bitter flavored. It’s really quite good, but I’m afraid I’m not prepared to share my personal stock of it with anyone else at this time. Sorry. [/quote][/quote][/quote]

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For the songs, ask Cathy Montaigne --

At All Costs --
"Under some circumstances," Elizabeth continued just a bit more seriously, "this could have been a significant political liability. Not only is Hamish First Lord, but Willie is Prime Minister. Which, by the way, is the first time in the Star Kingdom's history two sibs have simultaneously held such important positions in a government. The idea that all of us were lying, whether we were or not, is going to present itself, and the Opposition would just love to pounce on it. At the
moment, however, there is no effective Opposition. The only person who could put one together, really, is Cathy Montaigne, and given her own . . . irregular personal life—not to mention her basic personality—she'll be standing on top of the Parliament building toasting the brides and groom and leading choruses of obscene drinking songs in their honor.

-- Stewart