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Re: HFQ Official Snippet #16
Post by n7axw   » Wed Jan 21, 2015 12:46 pm

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Hi guys,

I agree that the scenario outlined above makes sense. The question in my own mind is does it make sense to go after Ahlverez. His army is both exhausted and hungry and at this point in no shape to engage in battle.

But on the other hand you don't want him squating on the Sheridan interdicting Hanth's supply lines which have grown quite long. So maybe being sure that Ahlverez is out of play is worth doing.

My own guess is that Rychtyr is going to retreat down that canal toward the main strength on the Dohlaran army rather than to risk throwing good money after bad by trying to hang on to Evyrtyn and having his supply lines cut. I doubt there will be any counterattacks at this time.

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Re: HFQ Official Snippet #16
Post by fallsfromtrees   » Wed Jan 21, 2015 2:53 pm

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n7axw wrote:Hi guys,

I agree that the scenario outlined above makes sense. The question in my own mind is does it make sense to go after Ahlverez. His army is both exhausted and hungry and at this point in no shape to engage in battle.

But on the other hand you don't want him squating on the Sheridan interdicting Hanth's supply lines which have grown quite long. So maybe being sure that Ahlverez is out of play is worth doing.

My own guess is that Rychtyr is going to retreat down that canal toward the main strength on the Dohlaran army rather than to risk throwing good money after bad by trying to hang on to Evyrtyn and having his supply lines cut. I doubt there will be any counterattacks at this time.

Don

In part Rychtyr has almost got to be feeling that anytime I attack the heretics, I get my ass handed to me, meaning that he now halfway considers himself defeated before entering the battle. Given that he is going to have to balance his reluctance to attack (and suffer another ass whuppin') against the intendents who will view any retreat as a betrayal of the Church. If the intendents have accepted that retreat is the only way save a portion of Rychtyr's army, he is going to be down that canal like a shot.
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Re: HFQ Official Snippet #16
Post by jeremyr   » Wed Jan 21, 2015 3:08 pm

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fallsfromtrees wrote:
In part Rychtyr has almost got to be feeling that anytime I attack the heretics, I get my ass handed to me, meaning that he now halfway considers himself defeated before entering the battle. Given that he is going to have to balance his reluctance to attack (and suffer another ass whuppin') against the intendents who will view any retreat as a betrayal of the Church. If the intendents have accepted that retreat is the only way save a portion of Rychtyr's army, he is going to be down that canal like a shot.


Of course the intendents may be more worried about keeping their heads attached than holding position and give him the green light to retreat to a more defensable position.
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Re: HFQ Official Snippet #16
Post by n7axw   » Wed Jan 21, 2015 3:23 pm

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jeremyr wrote:
fallsfromtrees wrote:
In part Rychtyr has almost got to be feeling that anytime I attack the heretics, I get my ass handed to me, meaning that he now halfway considers himself defeated before entering the battle. Given that he is going to have to balance his reluctance to attack (and suffer another ass whuppin') against the intendents who will view any retreat as a betrayal of the Church. If the intendents have accepted that retreat is the only way save a portion of Rychtyr's army, he is going to be down that canal like a shot.


Of course the intendents may be more worried about keeping their heads attached than holding position and give him the green light to retreat to a more defensable position.



I'm given to undertand that having your head attached to a spike driven into the ground can be an uncomfortable experience. Never tried it myself...

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Re: HFQ Official Snippet #16
Post by XofDallas   » Wed Jan 21, 2015 3:28 pm

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jeremyr wrote:Of course the intendents may be more worried about keeping their heads attached than holding position and give him the green light to retreat to a more defensable position.

Just remember, the commander in Kaitswyrth's army who abandoned Kaitswyrth's left flank. He and his intendant were executed by their superiors for their timerity.

Rychtyr may retreat if his intendants let him, but they'll realize Clyntahn will undoubtedly demand some scalps from his own commanders when he learns of everything that's happened recently. I think Rychtyr will stand and fight, especially since he's equipped with the new rifles, but he and his troops will be demoralized.

My biggest question is what happens to the canal.
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Re: HFQ Official Snippet #16
Post by Tonto Silerheels   » Wed Jan 21, 2015 3:35 pm

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XofDallas wrote:

Just remember, the commander in Kaitswyrth's army who abandoned Kaitswyrth's left flank. He and his intendant were executed by their superiors for their timerity.

Yeah, I've been expecting more commanders, intendants, and soldiers to quietly dissipate into the forests when they get ordered to attack vastly superior forces. "Let's see...beheading or have my head on a pike? Which should I choose? Which should I choose?"

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Re: HFQ Official Snippet #16
Post by fallsfromtrees   » Wed Jan 21, 2015 3:48 pm

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Tonto Silerheels wrote:XofDallas wrote:

Just remember, the commander in Kaitswyrth's army who abandoned Kaitswyrth's left flank. He and his intendant were executed by their superiors for their timerity.

Yeah, I've been expecting more commanders, intendants, and soldiers to quietly dissipate into the forests when they get ordered to attack vastly superior forces. "Let's see...beheading or have my head on a pike? Which should I choose? Which should I choose?"

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And as soon as the intendents and commanders start fading into the woods, or worse still, start defecting to the heretics (well commanders - the intendents might not think that was such a good idea), Clyntohn's entire ediface will start to crumble, and civil war within the Church's armed forces is just around the corner.
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Re: HFQ Official Snippet #16
Post by Kakai   » Wed Jan 21, 2015 5:17 pm

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fallsfromtrees wrote:And as soon as the intendents and commanders start fading into the woods, or worse still, start defecting to the heretics (well commanders - the intendents might not think that was such a good idea), Clyntohn's entire ediface will start to crumble, and civil war within the Church's armed forces is just around the corner.


:shock: I think it's possible you've just guessed a huge plot point of HFQ.

Honestly, I think it would actually help Allies a lot, especially seeing how there are those 1,000,000+ Harchongese left to deal with... I wouldn't wish that on anyone, though, it's bound to be messy (to say the least).

And who knows who's looking for an opportunity like that? (I'm looking at you, Aivah... Not to mention Zion's Dynamic Duo.)
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Re: HFQ Official Snippet #16
Post by Keith_w   » Wed Jan 21, 2015 10:16 pm

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n7axw wrote:Hi guys,

I agree that the scenario outlined above makes sense. The question in my own mind is does it make sense to go after Ahlverez. His army is both exhausted and hungry and at this point in no shape to engage in battle.

But on the other hand you don't want him squating on the Sheridan interdicting Hanth's supply lines which have grown quite long. So maybe being sure that Ahlverez is out of play is worth doing.

My own guess is that Rychtyr is going to retreat down that canal toward the main strength on the Dohlaran army rather than to risk throwing good money after bad by trying to hang on to Evyrtyn and having his supply lines cut. I doubt there will be any counterattacks at this time.

Don


I think it makes a tremendous amount of sense to go after Ahlverez. He has 35,000 experienced men who are presently not in very good shape. When you are starving, and your clothing and equipment are in tatters, when you are almost out of ammunition, it is probably very hard to put up a good fight. However, if he gets them home, gets them re-equipped, gets them healthy, they become a serious fighting force, and cadre for a much larger army. Much better to not let them get home at all.
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Re: HFQ Official Snippet #16
Post by jeremyr   » Wed Jan 21, 2015 11:28 pm

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Certainly looking like this is leading up to snippet #2.
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