A question about the destruction of Admiral Filareta

Vince wrote:

Brent7s wrote:My thought to what happened after the Admiral under Nano control typed in the code would be one of several things.

1# blows up the bomb
2# starts a computer program inside the Flagship to do several things
a) send a recorded message of Admiral Filareta to the rest of the fleet to open fire.
b) Lock out the flagship from sending any communications to any outside source.
c) locks out all escape pods and small craft from being used to escape the flagship.
d) waits until the flagships damage control system records an weapon impact to the hull and then blow up the fusion cores


If I was a paranoid bunch of supermen who think to clean up all possible chance at someone getting a hint of the truth. Setting up a Superdreadnaught to blow itself EMC2 to hide any "Alignment" fingerprints seems reasonable if I was a heartless fanatical Self deluded superman wanna be.

Reverse steps 1 and 2a-c, then execute 2d.

The only problem is that's an overly complex sequence, beyond nano-controllability, at least so far as RFC's characters have told us in textev thus far. Pushing the fire and forget button for the pods, a fire control order only issuable under control of the flagship, and a short sequence designed to blow up a purpose-installed bomb to take out the flag bridge, not so terribly difficult.

I'd think the "fire and forget" also triggered a salvo from any missiles already in tubes, but those were futile anyway because they were much more short legged.

Either way, the RMN / GA was forced to return fire, even if their own casualties were low enough that it seems injust for them to have done their jobs. The fact that the surviving SD's were allowed to surrender instead of just being slaughtered shows that "our good guys" fought a just and controlled battle, no matter what the Mandarin's try to sell to the League in the short run. The truth will out.

The fact that nobody has yet figured out, or apparently deeply investigated, how a SLN admiral got shot in the back of the head on her bridge at Spindle suggests that you really don't have to get overly carried away with coverups to keep the RMN from figuring out what happened.

What I have wondered is if it would be possible to avoid targeting Filereta's flag ship. Blow everything else away you can reach when the fur starts to fly, but avoid targeting the flagship and then force its surrender to get a team aboard to try to figure out what happened.

That one ship couldn't have impacted the battle as a whole, but had the GA been able to board after the rest of the SLN fleet was either destroyed or subdued, they would have found a blown flag bridge and its occupants turned into tiny pieces, but the rest of the ship ok...

I wonder what they could have made of that.

Don

n7axw wrote:I wonder what they could have made of that.

Probably what they made of the SLN admiral who got shot in the back of her head on her bridge....

kzt wrote:

n7axw wrote:I wonder what they could have made of that.

Probably what they made of the SLN admiral who got shot in the back of her head on her bridge....

Except at the time that Crandall died, they didn't really know about the nano-tech technology, so they might have been able to use that as proof.

fallsfromtrees wrote:

kzt wrote:Probably what they made of the SLN admiral who got shot in the back of her head on her bridge....

Except at the time that Crandall died, they didn't really know about the nano-tech technology, so they might have been able to use that as proof.

Well, sure. And everyone else on the bridge survived. So what happened and why? Doesn't this strike you as somewhat unusual and deserving of investigation? Who wanted her dead and why? Is it possible that the person responsible might know something that you want to know?

fallsfromtrees wrote:

kzt wrote:Probably what they made of the SLN admiral who got shot in the back of her head on her bridge....

Except at the time that Crandall died, they didn't really know about the nano-tech technology, so they might have been able to use that as proof.

kzt wrote:Well, sure. And everyone else on the bridge survived. So what happened and why? Doesn't this strike you as somewhat unusual and deserving of investigation? Who wanted her dead and why? Is it possible that the person responsible might know something that you want to know?

They did investigate, but there was no way to prove who actually killed her, and there was no mention of using a treecat to verify the truthfulness of the individuals on the bridge. They knew it was strange, but had no way to proceed. My belief is that Crandall was programed to kill herself when she was alone, in a fashion designed to raise questions.

fallsfromtrees wrote:They did investigate, but there was no way to prove who actually killed her, and there was no mention of using a treecat to verify the truthfulness of the individuals on the bridge. They knew it was strange, but had no way to proceed. My belief is that Crandall was programed to kill herself when she was alone, in a fashion designed to raise questions.

I wonder... if we even need an MAlign influence, though there's no textev one way or the other. Whether suicide or someone on the flag bridge shooting her -- either way, it moves the dishonor of surrendering away from that ship, forcing it to O'Cleary's flag deck.

It's not like any key officers on Crandall's bridge had anything to gain from guilt by association with her stupidity, given that her command choices placed them directly in the path of the ambush in the first place.

fallsfromtrees wrote:They did investigate, but there was no way to prove who actually killed her, and there was no mention of using a treecat to verify the truthfulness of the individuals on the bridge. They knew it was strange, but had no way to proceed. My belief is that Crandall was programed to kill herself when she was alone, in a fashion designed to raise questions.

Proof is overrated. There were what 20 people in the room and nobody saw nothin?

Anyhow, this kind of strongly suggests you don't need really complex chains of interlinked events to prevent the RMN from figuring out what happened if you can't get anyone in the room to talk or they really didn't notice anyone blow the COs brains out with her pistol.

fallsfromtrees wrote:
Probably what they made of the SLN admiral who got shot in the back of her head on her bridge....

Except at the time that Crandall died, they didn't really know about the nano-tech technology, so they might have been able to use that as proof.[/quote]

kzt wrote:Well, sure. And everyone else on the bridge survived. So what happened and why? Doesn't this strike you as somewhat unusual and deserving of investigation? Who wanted her dead and why? Is it possible that the person responsible might know something that you want to know?

They did investigate, but there was no way to prove who actually killed her, and there was no mention of using a treecat to verify the truthfulness of the individuals on the bridge. They knew it was strange, but had no way to proceed. My belief is that Crandall was programed to kill herself when she was alone, in a fashion designed to raise questions.[/quote]


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IIRC they noted that Crandall was shot in the BACK of her head.
Me thinks her suicide was assisted. The who is up to debate, but I suspect either (a) a staffer in the role of the aide to someone committing Hari Kiri , or (b) an unknown MA / GAUL agent who insured that "Dead Admirals tell no tails"

-- Stewart