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Re: Advanced tech without electricity/internal combustion?
Post by Weird Harold   » Wed Dec 24, 2014 1:03 am

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Keith_w wrote:While I agree with Harold and you on the results of using fossil fuels in our universe, on the Earth of the Safeholdian universe, humanity has obviously solved the global climatic change issue, otherwise they would not have had the resources to go exploring the universe and thus irritating the Gabba no end.


That's probably why, as far as I know, none of Merlin's toys have internal combustion engines or run on fossil fuel. :lol: :lol: :lol:

Seriously, though, OWL has the information needed to discourage ICEs and encourage a move away from using fossil hydrocarbons as fuel. OWL also has the information on how the Terran Federation generated clean, cheap energy and can guide innovators down the necessary tracks.
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Re: Advanced tech without electricity/internal combustion?
Post by n7axw   » Wed Dec 24, 2014 2:15 am

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Weird Harold wrote:
Keith_w wrote:While I agree with Harold and you on the results of using fossil fuels in our universe, on the Earth of the Safeholdian universe, humanity has obviously solved the global climatic change issue, otherwise they would not have had the resources to go exploring the universe and thus irritating the Gabba no end.


That's probably why, as far as I know, none of Merlin's toys have internal combustion engines or run on fossil fuel. :lol: :lol: :lol:

Seriously, though, OWL has the information needed to discourage ICEs and encourage a move away from using fossil hydrocarbons as fuel. OWL also has the information on how the Terran Federation generated clean, cheap energy and can guide innovators down the necessary tracks.


(sigh) I'll be disappointed if they don't come up with hemi with a turbo and four on the floor... :lol:

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Re: Advanced tech without electricity/internal combustion?
Post by Weird Harold   » Wed Dec 24, 2014 2:35 am

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n7axw wrote:(sigh) I'll be disappointed if they don't come up with hemi with a turbo and four on the floor... :lol:


I'd rather have a fusion powered skimmer with a sub-four second zero to six-hundred time. :P
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Re: Advanced tech without electricity/internal combustion?
Post by fallsfromtrees   » Wed Dec 24, 2014 2:54 am

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Weird Harold wrote:
n7axw wrote:(sigh) I'll be disappointed if they don't come up with hemi with a turbo and four on the floor... :lol:


I'd rather have a fusion powered skimmer with a sub-four second zero to six-hundred time. :P

Not sure you'd be real happy with it. Let's do a little arithmetic. assuming that the 600 is miles per hour, that is 880 ft/sec. if we are going to be going 880 ft/sec at the end of 4 seconds, then the acceleration is 220 ft/sec^2. G is 32 ft/sec^2, so this gives an acceleration of 6.875 gravities - not real comfortable. And 3 seconds give us 9.1 g. Definitely not comfortable.
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Re: Advanced tech without electricity/internal combustion?
Post by Weird Harold   » Wed Dec 24, 2014 2:57 am

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fallsfromtrees wrote:..,so this gives an acceleration of 6.875 gravities - not real comfortable. And 3 seconds give us 9.1 g. Definitely not comfortable.


Pffft! :P

That's what grav-plates, intertial compensators, and g-suits are for. :P :P :P
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Re: Advanced tech without electricity/internal combustion?
Post by fallsfromtrees   » Wed Dec 24, 2014 3:12 am

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Weird Harold wrote:
fallsfromtrees wrote:..,so this gives an acceleration of 6.875 gravities - not real comfortable. And 3 seconds give us 9.1 g. Definitely not comfortable.


Pffft! :P

That's what grav-plates, intertial compensators, and g-suits are for. :P :P :P

Wrong universe. There is no textev for grav-plates, intertial compensators, and g-suits :mrgreen:
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Re: Advanced tech without electricity/internal combustion?
Post by jgnfld   » Wed Dec 24, 2014 5:07 am

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fallsfromtrees wrote:
Weird Harold wrote:quote="fallsfromtrees"]..,so this gives an acceleration of 6.875 gravities - not real comfortable. And 3 seconds give us 9.1 g. Definitely not comfortable./quote]

Pffft! :P

That's what grav-plates, intertial compensators, and g-suits are for. :P :P :P

Wrong universe. There is no textev for grav-plates, intertial compensators, and g-suits :mrgreen:



Well we do know Merlin can go from supersonic flight in the sky to down on the ground fighting within about 1 sentence of internal dialogue. That implies a pretty stiff deceleration built in to the system. And even though Merlin himself may not be terribly vulnerable to it personally, the system was built for humans.
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Re: Advanced tech without electricity/internal combustion?
Post by Keith_w   » Wed Dec 24, 2014 8:27 am

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fallsfromtrees wrote: quote="Weird Harold" quote="fallsfromtrees"..,so this gives an acceleration of 6.875 gravities - not real comfortable. And 3 seconds give us 9.1 g. Definitely not comfortable. /quote

Pffft! :P

That's what grav-plates, intertial compensators, and g-suits are for. :P :P :P /quote
Wrong universe. There is no textev for grav-plates, intertial compensators, and g-suits :mrgreen:


Do you think that Merlin would have risked taking a pregnant Sharly to Nimues' cave via skimmer without inertial compensators? No G-suits though because there would have been a discussion about how to dress in one and/or what it was for during one of humans trips in a skimmer.
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Re: Advanced tech without electricity/internal combustion?
Post by SWM   » Wed Dec 24, 2014 11:47 am

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jgnfld wrote:Well we do know Merlin can go from supersonic flight in the sky to down on the ground fighting within about 1 sentence of internal dialogue. That implies a pretty stiff deceleration built in to the system. And even though Merlin himself may not be terribly vulnerable to it personally, the system was built for humans.

Just because we only get 1 sentence of internal dialogue during the interval between two events doesn't mean it only took a few seconds. The text does not give us moment-by-moment details. In other books we have seen internal dialogue provide the transition between events we know from other context are separated by an hour or more, or mere milliseconds.
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Re: Advanced tech without electricity/internal combustion?
Post by TN4994   » Wed Dec 24, 2014 1:58 pm

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fallsfromtrees wrote:
Weird Harold wrote:Pffft! :P

That's what grav-plates, intertial compensators, and g-suits are for. :P :P :P

Wrong universe. There is no textev for grav-plates, intertial compensators, and g-suits :mrgreen:

So, is this is envisioning a tie-in to John Ringo's Troy Rising series? Let's see: space gates, time travel, parallel universe, twin star system.
Thinking. Dim light here.
Perhaps an earth copy where ancient China took over Europe? :mrgreen: :mrgreen:
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