Spoiler - Snippet 12 An interesting thought

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Since the skimmer doesn't need a trained pilot and the person in that seat needs to be value added to this very important event I had a thought (mildly painful)

The thought was that the other Pilot was Paityr Wylsynn with his Verifier. This opens great 'interviews with the leaders of the SSK. All answers on the table with no room for escape if the interviews go awry.

That has some interesting plotlines to pursue!

Where could that scenario lead

dwileye13 wrote:Spoiler



Since the skimmer doesn't need a trained pilot and the person in that seat needs to be value added to this very important event I had a thought (mildly painful)

The thought was that the other Pilot was Paityr Wylsynn with his Verifier. This opens great 'interviews with the leaders of the SSK. All answers on the table with no room for escape if the interviews go awry.

That has some interesting plotlines to pursue!

Where could that scenario lead

Interesting suggestion. There would have been the need to pick him up from Tellesburg, and of course, the need to manufacture an excuse for him to be gone, but I suppose he could have gone on a retreat to St Zhernau's, since the inner circle there could cover for him. Actually, I have been a little surprised the there has been no other use of the verifier since Paityr was admitted tot he inner circle.

fallsfromtrees wrote:

dwileye13 wrote:Spoiler



Since the skimmer doesn't need a trained pilot and the person in that seat needs to be value added to this very important event I had a thought (mildly painful)

The thought was that the other Pilot was Paityr Wylsynn with his Verifier. This opens great 'interviews with the leaders of the SSK. All answers on the table with no room for escape if the interviews go awry.

That has some interesting plotlines to pursue!

Where could that scenario lead

Interesting suggestion. There would have been the need to pick him up from Tellesburg, and of course, the need to manufacture an excuse for him to be gone, but I suppose he could have gone on a retreat to St Zhernau's, since the inner circle there could cover for him. Actually, I have been a little surprised the there has been no other use of the verifier since Paityr was admitted tot he inner circle.

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fallsfromtrees wrote:

dwileye13 wrote:Spoiler



Since the skimmer doesn't need a trained pilot and the person in that seat needs to be value added to this very important event I had a thought (mildly painful)

The thought was that the other Pilot was Paityr Wylsynn with his Verifier. This opens great 'interviews with the leaders of the SSK. All answers on the table with no room for escape if the interviews go awry.

That has some interesting plotlines to pursue!

Where could that scenario lead

Interesting suggestion. There would have been the need to pick him up from Tellesburg, and of course, the need to manufacture an excuse for him to be gone, but I suppose he could have gone on a retreat to St Zhernau's, since the inner circle there could cover for him. Actually, I have been a little surprised the there has been no other use of the verifier since Paityr was admitted tot he inner circle.

This an interesting idea, but isn't the verifier already in the cave? I think we had a scene in LAMA where Nahrman and Owl are examining it.

The other issue here is that Father Paityr isn't a pilot and textev specfically says that the fourth person was a pilot. The only person we know of that fits that description is Nimue.

Don

Paityr may still possess the verifier.

What's in Nimue's Cave, is the Key.

While to play the messages in the Key Paityr would need his verifier (or part of it), Owl has power systems and other means to play the messages in the Key.

n7axw wrote:

fallsfromtrees wrote:


Interesting suggestion. There would have been the need to pick him up from Tellesburg, and of course, the need to manufacture an excuse for him to be gone, but I suppose he could have gone on a retreat to St Zhernau's, since the inner circle there could cover for him. Actually, I have been a little surprised the there has been no other use of the verifier since Paityr was admitted tot he inner circle.

This an interesting idea, but isn't the verifier already in the cave? I think we had a scene in LAMA where Nahrman and Owl are examining it.

The other issue here is that Father Paityr isn't a pilot and textev specfically says that the fourth person was a pilot. The only person we know of that fits that description is Nimue.

Don

DrakBibliophile wrote:Paityr may still possess the verifier.

What's in Nimue's Cave, is the Key.

While to play the messages in the Key Paityr would need his verifier (or part of it), Owl has power systems and other means to play the messages in the Key.

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Don

Wow - I thought this idea would bring some discussion. So much for epiphanies!

Really, Nynian meeting with a Wylsynn who will put her beliefs into scrutiny, Playing the Schueler message, finding out how Calandria truly feels about the SSK movement or has she followed Nynian for 30 years out of love?
How will they both react to Merlin being a sentient machine? Knowing the location of the Cave and with their personal experience with 'live or die' due to the response to knowledge they are given, they seem to be pretty calm.

This is an important step in deciding mutual goals and seeing each other's secrets. I think Nynian has the Journals with her (copies) perhaps her own (Kohdy's)Key?

I;m afraid that I, too, think that Nimue is the pilot of the other shuttle. Simple enough, she had one at her nearby disposal, and simply flew there to meet Merlin.

Aivah did mention her by name, after all, and Merlin didn't react with surprise at the reference.

I'm convinced that something bad is going to happen as a result of this. They've had several years of smooth sailing and I can't escape the suspicion that they're overdue for disaster on the conversion front. If Aivah or her assistant were able to smuggle a modern weapon along with them, or find a way to gain access while on site, it would definitely be a solid plot twist, or, given the devious nature of Aivah, if she claims conversion then goes on to do as much damage as she can back in Sidarmark, I can't help but believe that she could do terrific damage. Granted, she's smart, and she's already accepted that the Church isn't what it clans to be, but she IS devout, and determined. What if she just can't make the final step and accept the full truth?

Undercover Fat Kid wrote:I'm convinced that something bad is going to happen as a result of this. They've had several years of smooth sailing and I can't escape the suspicion that they're overdue for disaster on the conversion front. If Aivah or her assistant were able to smuggle a modern weapon along with them, or find a way to gain access while on site, it would definitely be a solid plot twist, or, given the devious nature of Aivah, if she claims conversion then goes on to do as much damage as she can back in Sidarmark, I can't help but believe that she could do terrific damage. Granted, she's smart, and she's already accepted that the Church isn't what it clans to be, but she IS devout, and determined. What if she just can't make the final step and accept the full truth?

Well, to play Nynian's (or the devil's) advocate, Nynian is really a lot better prepared to receive the truth than anyone to whom it has been revealed so far:

1.She has been engaged in a shadow war with the church all of her life.

2.She knows that the church lies, commits murder, forgery, extortion and the like.

3. She is aware of a story line about the beginnings that contradicts the Writ and the testimonies.

4.Yes she is devout, but not more so than, say, Father Paityr or Mikael Staynair who both at various stages had to come to grips with the truth about the archangels.

5.She has been introduced to us not only as being very capable but as a person of kindness and compassion.

6.There is really no plausible weapon that would be available to Nynian that could damage a PICA, although it is true that she doesn't know that and were she to try something she would find out the hard way.

7.The real reason there is so much nervousness about her both in the story line and her on the forum has not to do with her character but because she figured out part of the truth about Merlin and approached him and not the other way around.

Of all the people in a position to understand that there is a difference between God and the church, Nynian and Sandaria are probably in the best position that we have seen so far.

So here is my wager, guys... If I am wrong, belly up to the virtual bar and have a round on me. There is 80-20 odds of Nynian and Sandaria adjusting to the truth just fine. If I am right, what we are seeing now in the snippet is a plot device being used to reveal more of the story of the War against the Fallen and the early days of the COGA along with gaining access to more Nynian's sourses in the temple and possibly Duchairn's plot. If I am wrong... worst case, the cryo chambers for Nynian and Sandaria.

Don

Don,

The odds are 100% because the outcome is written. We just don't know what RFC wrote.

You know my thoughts since before HFQ snippets. Pretty soon we might get a clearer idea how Nynian will respond.