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Re: Technology
Post by DrakBibliophile   » Fri Nov 28, 2014 1:23 pm

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I accept that I may have misunderstood your point, but I'll point out that while the "Cold War" didn't turn hot in Europe, there were plenty of "proxy" wars between the two sides.

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While there's some validity in the dangers of "making war too civilized", thinking that "war is terrible" would lead to "no more wars" isn't such a valid idea.


You misunderstood my words. The "war is terrible" would lead to more greater political caution, military accuracy and generally less conflicts would grew in open warfare. The Second World War clearly indicated, that there is no way to really won the war between industrial superpowers - the post-war situation for all participants (excluding USA, but only because their remote position) was greatly worse than before war.

And Cold War didn't became Hot, because both sides clearly understood the horrors of full-scale nuclear warfare and also understood that they would be unable to won the war.
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Re: Technology
Post by mh1   » Fri Nov 28, 2014 2:59 pm

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Female soldiers...

not really technology
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Re: Technology
Post by mh1   » Fri Nov 28, 2014 3:03 pm

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Re: Technology
Post by SWM   » Fri Nov 28, 2014 5:23 pm

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Dilandu wrote:
SWM wrote:The problem is that it isn't very effective against military targets. It simply wasn't accurate enough. It's only use was to terrorize the civilian population, because no one knew where it would hit (including the people launching it).


Actually, it highly effective. It forced enemy to recall a lot of peoples, AA guns, radars, interceptors and other resources from the frontline to protect his territory.

As cost-effective weapon, V-1 was actually effective. The UK spend a lot more money on anti-air defense against them, then Germany spend on missiles.

I didn't say it wasn't effective as a terrorist weapon. I said it wasn't effective against military targets.
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Re: Technology
Post by evilauthor   » Fri Nov 28, 2014 5:49 pm

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DrakBibliophile wrote:I accept that I may have misunderstood your point, but I'll point out that while the "Cold War" didn't turn hot in Europe, there were plenty of "proxy" wars between the two sides.


True. But none of them blew up into a Big War that everyone was expecting because of nuclear deterrence.

India and Pakistan tends to get pointed at how nukes deter war. Lot of border fighting and vitriol between the two... which suddenly quieted down when both sides got nukes.

Of course, nuclear deterrence tends to be predicated on the assumption that the leadership of all sides involved (that hold nukes) are sane.
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Re: Technology
Post by MPCatchup   » Sat Nov 29, 2014 12:52 am

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Draken wrote:For any kind of rockets we need a lot of hydrogen as a propeller. Gatling gun will be great for Charis when we start fighting with Harchong army. How much that was? 200 thousands? One thing which could help a lot would be introduction of real chemical industry, they will soon need to produce tons of propellants for ammunition and nitrocellulose is very unstable.
Zeppelin type ships could be in service pretty fast, we have nearly everything to create them. So why not?


I would think that zeppelins would be just around the corner. With the natural fabrics found on Safehold and the improves power looms that have been put into service hot air balloons must be coming soon so after that the next step would be to put engine on them so they can go where ever they want. Steel thistle silk would be a great outer sin to these. This was brought up in the post viewtopic.php?f=7&t=6416&hilit=silk
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Re: Technology
Post by TN4994   » Sat Nov 29, 2014 1:04 am

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MPCatchup wrote:
Draken wrote:For any kind of rockets we need a lot of hydrogen as a propeller. Gatling gun will be great for Charis when we start fighting with Harchong army. How much that was? 200 thousands? One thing which could help a lot would be introduction of real chemical industry, they will soon need to produce tons of propellants for ammunition and nitrocellulose is very unstable.
Zeppelin type ships could be in service pretty fast, we have nearly everything to create them. So why not?


I would think that zeppelins would be just around the corner. With the natural fabrics found on Safehold and the improves power looms that have been put into service hot air balloons must be coming soon so after that the next step would be to put engine on them so they can go where ever they want. Steel thistle silk would be a great outer sin to these. This was brought up in the post viewtopic.php?f=7&t=6416&hilit=silk

Except they can't be named after Count Ferdinand von Zeppelin.
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Re: Technology
Post by TN4994   » Sat Nov 29, 2014 1:33 am

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For those DIY's, a 2 meter long metal tube with an inside diameter of approximately 20 centimeters, makes a dandy fuselage for a glide rocket. You can finagle the material used, skin thickness, wing location and length, as well as the rear stabilizer and launch rig.
No need for liquid fuels such as hydrogen. Fertilizer mixed with a few other ingredients makes a good dry solid propellant.
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Re: Technology
Post by chrisd   » Sat Nov 29, 2014 2:01 am

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TN4994 wrote:
Oh, before anyone trys it, study up on Murphy's Law and Finagle's Law of Dynamic Negatives.


And remember "O'Toole's Corollary" - "Murphy's a fekin' Optimist"
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Re: Technology
Post by chrisd   » Sat Nov 29, 2014 2:08 am

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DrakBibliophile wrote:I accept that I may have misunderstood your point, but I'll point out that while the "Cold War" didn't turn hot in Europe, there were plenty of "proxy" wars between the two sides.



Surely one of the main reasons that the "Cold War" never became "Hot" was that EVEN the politicians ( from "Koba" upwards) realised that their favourite anatomy would be unable to dodge a nuclear weapon.
They could no longer sit at home and send others out to die for their self-aggrandisement, Nukes were aimed at them, and would get through.
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