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n7axw wrote:Lyonheart was right about the feasibility of trench warfare. The thing is that those same factors also rule out a Marginot Line. ...

Partially true; a WWI style 400 mile trench system is not feasible. We have already scene American Civil War style entrenchments as defensive works around a high value target with the besieging troops encircled by a second set of trenches.

Charisian artillery and a bit of helpful disinformation from one of Merlin's aliases, broke the entrenchments in short order, but equipped closer to parity -- a la union vs confederate -- such strong-point entrenchments could tie up armies for an entire fighting season.

Weird Harold wrote:

n7axw wrote:Lyonheart was right about the feasibility of trench warfare. The thing is that those same factors also rule out a Marginot Line. ...

Partially true; a WWI style 400 mile trench system is not feasible. We have already scene American Civil War style entrenchments as defensive works around a high value target with the besieging troops encircled by a second set of trenches.

Charisian artillery and a bit of helpful disinformation from one of Merlin's aliases, broke the entrenchments in short order, but equipped closer to parity -- a la union vs confederate -- such strong-point entrenchments could tie up armies for an entire fighting season.

Hi Harold,

What I understood the discussion to be about here was the WW1 "Western Front" sort of thing. I certainly wouldn't deny the feasibility and value of entrenchments in localized situations.

Don

n7axw wrote:What I understood the discussion to be about here was the WW1 "Western Front" sort of thing. I certainly wouldn't deny the feasibility and value of entrenchments in localized situations.

I think there is a natural tendency to think WWI Western Front when trenches are mentioned, but I've always been thinking in terms of escalations of what we've already seen in Textev. Charis can't afford to fall into U. S. Grant's solution of counter-entrenchments and a long siege; Trench warfare is playing the CoGA's game.

Weird Harold wrote:

n7axw wrote:What I understood the discussion to be about here was the WW1 "Western Front" sort of thing. I certainly wouldn't deny the feasibility and value of entrenchments in localized situations.

I think there is a natural tendency to think WWI Western Front when trenches are mentioned, but I've always been thinking in terms of escalations of what we've already seen in Textev. Charis can't afford to fall into U. S. Grant's solution of counter-entrenchments and a long siege; Trench warfare is playing the CoGA's game.

I couldn't agree more wholeheartedly.

Don

I wonder if Sun Tzu's The Art of War, made it into Owl's library.

TN4994 wrote:I wonder if Sun Tzu's The Art of War, made it into Owl's library.

I'm sure that it's in the same file folder as Clausewitz, "On War."

Don

Weird Harold wrote:

n7axw wrote:Lyonheart was right about the feasibility of trench warfare. The thing is that those same factors also rule out a Marginot Line. ...

Partially true; a WWI style 400 mile trench system is not feasible. We have already scene American Civil War style entrenchments as defensive works around a high value target with the besieging troops encircled by a second set of trenches.

Charisian artillery and a bit of helpful disinformation from one of Merlin's aliases, broke the entrenchments in short order, but equipped closer to parity -- a la union vs confederate -- such strong-point entrenchments could tie up armies for an entire fighting season.

Safehold already has those kinds of trenches. The question was about CoGA forcing stalemate by entrenching it's borders.

I haven't really gotten into the snippets, so this might be answered in one of them.
Is Clyntahn planning on using the Border States as a buffer?

TN4994 wrote:I haven't really gotten into the snippets, so this might be answered in one of them.
Is Clyntahn planning on using the Border States as a buffer?

SPOILER
Nope

fallsfromtrees wrote:

TN4994 wrote:I haven't really gotten into the snippets, so this might be answered in one of them.
Is Clyntahn planning on using the Border States as a buffer?

SPOILER
Nope

A) Nope, as: it's not mentioned in the snippets.
B) Nope: he's not planning on using them as a buffer.