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HFQ Official Snippet #11

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Re: HFQ Official Snippet #11
Post by Kufat   » Fri Nov 21, 2014 5:08 pm

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Duckk wrote:
phillies wrote:Someplace upthread, there was a reference to OWL not having the components needed to build arbitrary numbers of PICAs. That was what OWL said when she was a running on few cylinders. It did not occur that I could see to Nimue to ask OWL what components were necessary, and OWL did not volunteer that she needed a supply of low-grade cast iron to make the brains. It may be that the components are readily available if requested.


I really doubt it would be anything so trivial. It's probably some rare earth metal like iridium or osmium. Besides, Owl had gained additional self awareness at the time he advanced the PICA project, plus Nahrmahn to help him along. Someone as perceptive as Nahrmahn would not have let something so obvious pass him by.


"Hey Owl, what do we need to make a few dozen more PICAs? And while we're at it, how can we whip up a batch of this battle steel of yours?"
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Re: HFQ Official Snippet #11
Post by Joat42   » Fri Nov 21, 2014 5:14 pm

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Regarding Sandaria accompanying Aivah and Merlin to the cave, it may have a simple explanation. Remember that the SSK is a bit divided on the meaning of using Spanish and where Adam and Eve's came from before the creation of Safehold:
HFQ Chapter 2 wrote: “I don’t know that for certain, because he never explaned his reasoning in the portions of the journal we can read. Until I encountered that ‘Español’ of his, it had never occurred to me another language might even exist! And however reasonable it may’ve seemed to him at the time, his decision to use it means even the Sisterhood’s members are divided on at least a few points.”

“Oh?” Merlin tilted his head, and Aivah smiled more than a little tartly.

“Some of us — myself included — have interpreted the passage in which he recorded his decision to begin using ‘Español’ to suggest that it came from some time or place which predated the Creation. Combined with a few other puzzling references, one could almost read that as saying all of the Adams and Eves were . . . somewhere else before Safehold was called into existence.”

Her dark eyes were suddenly very intent, boring into him like twin blades, but she went on calmly, almost tranquilly.

Even those of us who read it that way are divided about where that ‘somewhere else’ might have been. Most of us interpret it as evidence that not even an Archangel could create a soul — that God Himself must be the sole Creator in that sense — and that all those Adams and Eves were with Him while the Archangels prepared the world in which they would live. But a fair number of us think he might just as well have meant the Adams and Eves lived and breathed on an entirely different world and that God and the Archangels brought them here from that other world, rather than first giving them life on the Day of Creation. It’s a substantial distinction, and one I’ve often thought we could have found the answer to if he’d written the ‘Español’ portions in something we could read. Or,” she added, raising both eyebrows, “that the Sisterhood could read, at any rate.”

“I might be able to do a little something about that,” he acknowledged slowly. “I can’t promise. And you’d have to trust me with the journal — or a true copy of it, at any rate.”

It may just be that Sandaria belongs to the other "faction" in SSK and they want to show her the truth and it kind of fits in my opinion.

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Re: HFQ Official Snippet #11
Post by EdThomas   » Fri Nov 21, 2014 7:07 pm

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Joat42 wrote:Regarding Sandaria accompanying Aivah and Merlin to the cave, it may have a simple explanation. Remember that the SSK is a bit divided on the meaning of using Spanish and where Adam and Eve's came from before the creation of Safehold:
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It may just be that Sandaria belongs to the other "faction" in SSK and they want to show her the truth and it kind of fits in my opinion.

Many thanks for this breath of fresh air. It was starting to getway too murky in here. :) :)
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Re: HFQ Official Snippet #11
Post by n7axw   » Fri Nov 21, 2014 7:40 pm

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EdThomas wrote:
Joat42 wrote:Regarding Sandaria accompanying Aivah and Merlin to the cave, it may have a simple explanation. Remember that the SSK is a bit divided on the meaning of using Spanish and where Adam and Eve's came from before the creation of Safehold:
SNIP
It may just be that Sandaria belongs to the other "faction" in SSK and they want to show her the truth and it kind of fits in my opinion.

Many thanks for this breath of fresh air. It was starting to getway too murky in here. :) :)


Murky??? Murky!!! What is murky??? We're all hard headedly coolly analytical fans of the work of David Weber around here! We can't be murky :P :P :P

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Re: HFQ Official Snippet #11
Post by Annachie   » Sat Nov 22, 2014 7:01 am

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I don't really see a Sandaria being part of the other faction in the SSK. Doesn't seem right for such a long term 2ic.
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Re: HFQ Official Snippet #11
Post by phillies   » Sat Nov 22, 2014 10:17 am

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Annachie wrote:I don't really see a Sandaria being part of the other faction in the SSK. Doesn't seem right for such a long term 2ic.


Faction piece is the rule that the 2ic *must* belong to the other faction.
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Re: HFQ Official Snippet #11
Post by fallsfromtrees   » Sat Nov 22, 2014 11:06 am

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phillies wrote:
Annachie wrote:I don't really see a Sandaria being part of the other faction in the SSK. Doesn't seem right for such a long term 2ic.


Faction piece is the rule that the 2ic *must* belong to the other faction.

Kind of like the original constitutional requirement that the Vice President is the person who finished second in the Presidential voting in the electoral college?
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Re: HFQ Official Snippet #11
Post by TN4994   » Sat Nov 22, 2014 11:14 am

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fallsfromtrees wrote:
Kind of like the original constitutional requirement that the Vice President is the person who finished second in the Presidential voting in the electoral college?


Or that the US President and Vice-President can't be residents of the same state.
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Re: HFQ Official Snippet #11
Post by phillies   » Sat Nov 22, 2014 11:42 am

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TN4994 wrote:
fallsfromtrees wrote:
Kind of like the original constitutional requirement that the Vice President is the person who finished second in the Presidential voting in the electoral college?


Or that the US President and Vice-President can't be residents of the same state.


Actually, that is *not* the Constitutional rule. And as the local resident who was a delegate in a Presidential nominating convention where this issue mattered, I can be sure, because I was the person who made the relevant point of order. The actual rule is that an Elector, in voting for President and Vice President, must vote for at least one person who does not live in the same state as the Elector. Thus, for example, the Republican Party could safely nominate two residents of Rhode Island for President and Vice President, there would be no legal obstacle, and since the Republicans seem less than likely to carry Rhode Island, there would be no practical consequences.
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Re: HFQ Official Snippet #11
Post by fallsfromtrees   » Sat Nov 22, 2014 11:55 am

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TN4994 wrote:
fallsfromtrees wrote:
Kind of like the original constitutional requirement that the Vice President is the person who finished second in the Presidential voting in the electoral college?


Or that the US President and Vice-President can't be residents of the same state.

Actually just re-read the Constitution (Article II and Amendment 12) and the requirement is not that the President and Vice-President be from separate states, but that the electors must vote for at least one person not from their own state. If both the President and Vice-President candidates where from the same state, the electors from that state could not vote for them - Made some sort of sense in trying to force the electors to think nationally, instead of regionally - now of course, we should do away with the electoral college, and go to direct election of the president and vice-president, similar to the provision for US Senators.
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