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What's Next?
Post by Gunther   » Wed Nov 05, 2014 4:06 pm

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Will there be another Honor Harrington book after Mission Of Honor? There were some loose ends like the continued fighting with Solarian League and what is happening with Mesa?
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Re: What's Next?
Post by Duckk   » Wed Nov 05, 2014 4:16 pm

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Cauldron of Ghosts and Shadow of Freedom carry on in different areas. The next Honor centric book won't be out for at least a year, though.
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Re: What's Next?
Post by George J. Smith   » Wed Nov 05, 2014 4:50 pm

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A Rising Thunder also comes after Mission of Honor


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Re: What's Next?
Post by Hutch   » Wed Nov 05, 2014 4:52 pm

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Gunther wrote:Will there be another Honor Harrington book after Mission Of Honor? There were some loose ends like the continued fighting with Solarian League and what is happening with Mesa?


To add to Duckks' comments: In the 'direct line' (those books that feature Honor Harrington), the one after Mission of Honor is "A Rising Thunder", which has been out for about a year.

The two Duckk mentions are set around the same time as A Rising Thunder but cover events in the Talbott and Torch storylines.

And like Duckk says, we're all waiting another year or so for the next Honor Harrington story.

ETA: George beat me too it.
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Re: What's Next?
Post by Duckk   » Wed Nov 05, 2014 6:33 pm

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George J. Smith wrote:A Rising Thunder also comes after Mission of Honor


D'oh! Got my book order mixed up. :oops:
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Re: What's Next?
Post by dreamrider   » Sat Nov 08, 2014 1:20 am

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Though 'A Rising Thunder' has more direct presence of Honor, I am not sure that anyone can keep up with the current state of the Grand Alliance - Solarian League - MAlign confrontation without reading 'Shadow of Freedom', 'A Rising Thunder', and 'Cauldron of Ghosts' in order. Each overlaps the other, but each goes a little further down the timeline, and each provides some insight into human sphere events that is not fully covered in the others.

If you are one of those people that is 'simply not interested in the side stories' (a distinction, BTW, that David no longer makes), at least skim the opening chapters of SoF & CoG, any middle chapters dealing with Detweilers, or Maya, or Solarian conspirators & mandarins, or actual in-space/in-orbit confrontations between RMN and SLN/SLN surrogates, and the closing chapters.

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Re: What's Next?
Post by james99   » Tue Nov 11, 2014 10:25 pm

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I am sort of musing. 1. The major shipbuilding yards have been destroyed. The only major construction yard is the Bolthole.
2. You combine Admiral Hemphill's technical people with the crew of the Bolthole and add in Herlander Simoes a Hyper-physicist on the streak drive and they know that the spider drive exists. I would expect that the Bolthole's emphasis on secrecy would remain. I bet within a couple of "T years" a couple of new destroyers would be built. I would imagine that Grayson's Ship-building yards would begin recovery than Manticore because of their construction model. Of course, Manticore might begin their rebuilding the same way.
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Re: What's Next?
Post by Hutch   » Tue Nov 11, 2014 10:42 pm

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james99 wrote:I am sort of musing. 1. The major shipbuilding yards have been destroyed. The only major construction yard is the Bolthole.


Also the 'other' Yards at Haven and elsewhere in the republic are still operating as far as we know. Bolthole was not the only place where Haven was building SD(P)'s.

2. You combine Admiral Hemphill's technical people with the crew of the Bolthole and add in Herlander Simoes a Hyper-physicist on the streak drive and they know that the spider drive exists. I would expect that the Bolthole's emphasis on secrecy would remain. I bet within a couple of "T years" a couple of new destroyers would be built. I would imagine that Grayson's Ship-building yards would begin recovery than Manticore because of their construction model. Of course, Manticore might begin their rebuilding the same way.


I agree that the combination of brains at Bolthole will pull off something neat.

I do worry that with folks on Grayson, Beowulf, and Manticore now knowing the location, the chances of the MAlignment finding it have increased. And yes, it is being treated as a kill-yourself-before-reading Ultra-Super-Secret, but the fact remains the more people (no matter how far up the ladder) who know a fact, the better the chance it will leak.

And Manticore had already adapted to the Grayson building slips, that's why the MAligment used a number of conventional missiles after using the Graser torps to take out the space stations. (IIRC).
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Re: What's Next?
Post by dreamrider   » Wed Nov 12, 2014 3:50 am

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Hutch wrote:
james99 wrote:I am sort of musing. 1. The major shipbuilding yards have been destroyed. The only major construction yard is the Bolthole.


Also the 'other' Yards at Haven and elsewhere in the republic are still operating as far as we know. Bolthole was not the only place where Haven was building SD(P)'s.

2. You combine Admiral Hemphill's technical people with the crew of the Bolthole and add in Herlander Simoes a Hyper-physicist on the streak drive and they know that the spider drive exists. I would expect that the Bolthole's emphasis on secrecy would remain. I bet within a couple of "T years" a couple of new destroyers would be built. I would imagine that Grayson's Ship-building yards would begin recovery than Manticore because of their construction model. Of course, Manticore might begin their rebuilding the same way.


I agree that the combination of brains at Bolthole will pull off something neat.

I do worry that with folks on Grayson, Beowulf, and Manticore now knowing the location, the chances of the MAlignment finding it have increased. And yes, it is being treated as a kill-yourself-before-reading Ultra-Super-Secret, but the fact remains the more people (no matter how far up the ladder) who know a fact, the better the chance it will leak.

And Manticore had already adapted to the Grayson building slips, that's why the MAligment used a number of conventional missiles after using the Graser torps to take out the space stations. (IIRC).[/quote]

Hutch, there is no reason for, and many reasons against, any more than a tiny, ultra-reliable handful of additional GA types knowing the location of Bolthole. I have actually never believed that any more than 2-300 Havenites had the data to actually find it/navigate to it.

I willing to bet that neither Theisman, nor Tourville, nor Forakker could lay a course for Bolthole themselves. I think that they use dedicated black-program, Bolthole-only astrogators and helmsmen, who keep at least some of the essential astrogation data solely in their heads. Ships going in and coming out are brought from/to an assembly point, and then turned over to the service crew. The assembly/departure points are also randomly changed on a short and random schedule.

They have kept this thing **SECRET** for something like 50 YEARS! With Honor, and treecat, verification of the honorable intentions of the Haven NCA and high command, there is no need to mess with success at this point, particularly when faced with the threat of clandestine operators of the demonstrated towering stature of the MAlign, and invisible raiders with invisible graser torpedoes.

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Re: What's Next?
Post by Hutch   » Wed Nov 12, 2014 9:27 am

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dreamrider wrote:Hutch, there is no reason for, and many reasons against, any more than a tiny, ultra-reliable handful of additional GA types knowing the location of Bolthole. I have actually never believed that any more than 2-300 Havenites had the data to actually find it/navigate to it.

I willing to bet that neither Theisman, nor Tourville, nor Forakker could lay a course for Bolthole themselves. I think that they use dedicated black-program, Bolthole-only astrogators and helmsmen, who keep at least some of the essential astrogation data solely in their heads. Ships going in and coming out are brought from/to an assembly point, and then turned over to the service crew. The assembly/departure points are also randomly changed on a short and random schedule.

They have kept this thing **SECRET** for something like 50 YEARS! With Honor, and treecat, verification of the honorable intentions of the Haven NCA and high command, there is no need to mess with success at this point, particularly when faced with the threat of clandestine operators of the demonstrated towering stature of the MAlign, and invisible raiders with invisible graser torpedoes.

dreamrider


I can't argue anything you're saying, dreamrider, but given that Governments' have a poor history (since the first records of same) of keeping secrets for very long.

Not that it is impossible in the short run (Manhattan Project), but once a secret is known, it has usually been ferreted out, sometimes by 'newsies', sometimes by leaks within.

That said, I agree that most of the leadership and even those stationed there (like Foraker) probably do not know the coordinates. I'd go further and say that any ship going needs to have three separate people, each with part of the astrographic information, to chart a course.

But I still can't escape the feeling that a secret that big will come out sooner or later....

We shall see, eventually.
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