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Official HFQ Snippet #10

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Re: Official HFQ Snippet #10
Post by USMA74   » Wed Oct 29, 2014 1:11 pm

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Thanks much. It is fitting that an announcement of a delay in the regular snippet schedule was announced on the 85th Anniversary of Wall Street's "Black Friday." :twisted: However, if the snippets resume on 12 November they will link quite well with the 150th Anniversary of Union Major General Sherman's decision to destroy public buildings in Atlanta. The link is what Sherman's bummers did to Atlanta will be similar in effect to what Green Valley is going to do against his opponent. (That is how I took announcement of a two week delay although I suppose it could mean a two week delay from 8 November which is ten days from today. Sad puppy face at that thought.) :lol:
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Re: Official HFQ Snippet #10
Post by BobG   » Wed Oct 29, 2014 1:16 pm

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I wonder: with the steel thistle silk layered with wool, will that significantly slow incoming shrapnel or even bullets? Has anyone figured out that a vest of 6-12 layers of steel thistle silk will stop rifle fire from gunpowder-propelled weapons?

I certainly don't expect the development of ceramic body armor plates anytime soon.

And how about layering the inside of a galleon with layers of steel thistle silk to reduce splinters?

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Re: Official HFQ Snippet #10
Post by chrisd   » Wed Oct 29, 2014 1:25 pm

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kbus888 wrote:=2014/10/29=

Mr and Mrs Weber

Lise and I wish you and yours a safe, exiting, and interesting European trip.

L & R
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Are not "safe", "exciting" and "interesting" mutually exclusive?

e.g. "may you live in interesting times"

Hope the trip delivers everything you want and anticipate.
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Re: Official HFQ Snippet #10
Post by PeterZ   » Wed Oct 29, 2014 1:57 pm

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Bon voyage! Selamat jalan! Have a safe trip for you and the lovely Sharon, David.


One wonders what will terrify the CoGA more; the ICN battlewagons or the gear that allows the ICA to march through Zion winter weather? Neither can the CoGA produce in sufficient numbers if at all to offset the threat either represents to the jihad.

Seriously, a harchongese sees the profligacy with which the Charisian uses steel thistle silk and his mind has to boggle. If the Charisians can produce the prohibitively expensive fabric in such quantities, what else can they turn upside down? What other miracle can they generate? Soldiers that know of people working with steel thistle silk will see lives saved in reducing the labor requirements for the process. IIRC, separating the seeds from the fiber exposed the worker to sepsis.

How many such insights need to be made before the value provided by the Charisian production systems become inescapable? How many of Nynian's poor might be clothed and housed better? How much more food might be produced to feed Safehold's hungry with abundant Charisian tools? Does God so hate mankind that He proscribes these things that will make humanity's lot better or does He love man enough to allow these innovations?

Those types of questions will wreak havoc with the Inquisitions grip on Safehold's citizenry.
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Re: Official HFQ Snippet #10
Post by Duckk   » Wed Oct 29, 2014 2:02 pm

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pokermind wrote:Actually RFC is having too much fun posting his own, so neither one of you gets to read Hells Foundation Quiver early :lol:

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Re: Official HFQ Snippet #10
Post by Keith_w   » Wed Oct 29, 2014 2:12 pm

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I've dressed like that - and towed a damned toboggan with a tent on it too! While wearing snow shoes as well. 40 below and coats open. But they didn't give us floors for our tents.

Thanks RFC for reminding me how much fun winter exercises were (ok, not) :D

Do remember that you can literally freeze your ass off if you are not careful!
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Re: Official HFQ Snippet #10
Post by laz   » Wed Oct 29, 2014 2:19 pm

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runsforcelery wrote:I'm in a Mahntee Paithon sort of mood today, so "Oh, stop groveling, man!" :P :lol:

The men themselves wore white snow smocks over fleece-lined outer parkas and trousers of supple, well-tanned caribou hide. Inside that came inner parkas of steel thistle silk-lined, triple-knit wool over woolen shirts and corduroy trousers, and more steel thistle silk had been expended on each man’s long-sleeved and legged underwear. That “layered” effect was essential for arctic clothing, and the silk served as a barrier against the menace of water vapor. Arctic air could accept less water as vapor, so moisture like sweat quickly condensed out of it. The steel thistle silk prevented perspiration from saturating the layers outside it, which would quickly have destroyed their insulating capacity.

To protect his hands, each man wore heavy, multilayered mittens or thick fleece-lined gloves over an inner glove of knitted wool and a separate liner of steel thistle silk. The mittens were warmer than gloves because they gathered and held the heat of the entire hand, not individual fingers, but they were clumsy, to say the least, and the gloves allowed greater manual dexterity when it was required.

Boots had been as carefully considered as the rest of the troops’ gear. Made of sealskin and lined with fleece, they had double soles and an inner, moccasin-like liner which could be removed to dry, or worn as a sort of house shoe inside one of the tents.


No hats? no double walled steel thermoses? with coffee? i assume simple over site, and they do have some form of WARM head protection, unlike the germans vs the russians.

also what about repeated firing of the guns in COLD weather? or starting the
oil stove? unless otherwise noted i will assume Greenvalley paid attention to the russian/german winter conflicts in his history books.


laz
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Re: Official HFQ Snippet #10
Post by lyonheart   » Wed Oct 29, 2014 2:26 pm

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Thank you RFC!

Fascinating details of winter equipment.

With 2 dragoon brigades, and an infantry division with supporting artillery and engineers, would seem to total ~40,000 winter sets of uniforms, tents, etc and well within Charis's capabilities, while probably providing the same for the whole army couldn't be.

I wonder if the Raven Lords know about them? ;)

How soon until we have a battle or engagement?

L


BarryKirk wrote:Thanks for the snippet RFC!!!

I feel the urge to grovel for another subsiding... For a little while.

Have a great trip to Europe.
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Re: Official HFQ Snippet #10
Post by Tanstaafl   » Wed Oct 29, 2014 2:57 pm

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Thanks RFC,

this is soooo cool.
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Re: Official HFQ Snippet #10
Post by Tonto Silerheels   » Wed Oct 29, 2014 3:36 pm

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runsforcelery wrote:

And best of all, Green Valley thought, no one on the other side has a clue of just how winter-mobile we are.

I can't wait to read Clyntahn's response to the results of Safehold's first northern winter major battle.

~Tonto
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