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Re: Information I'd love to know
Post by dreamrider   » Sun Oct 26, 2014 9:46 pm

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roseandheather wrote:
Uroboros wrote:

Eloise Pritchart's time as Brigade Commander Delta.


I might actually give my right arm (or just obscene amounts of money) for a novel that was essentially Eloise's life story up until the Grand Alliance.


Write it, Rose.

Or ask Joelle Presby to do it in her copious free time (ha!). It's her sort of thing. Maybe at least a longish short story for the next anthology.

Wait, wait! Write David a PM, and beg him to make this the frame for the House of Lies novella!

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Re: Information I'd love to know
Post by cthia   » Sun Oct 26, 2014 10:22 pm

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Three questions.

1. Did Alfred Harrington know about Young's attempted assault on his daughter?

2. Memory singers have perfect memory. Do normal treecats at least have good short term memory, much better than a human perhaps?

3. Can treecats identify people from the taste of their minds? If one treecat knew a certain human was a criminal element and that element escaped, yet the treecat tasted his mind glow beforehand, could that treecat put out an APB on that mind glow, that would identify a perpetrator even if he underwent cosmetic surgery?

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Re: Information I'd love to know
Post by SWM   » Sun Oct 26, 2014 10:56 pm

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cthia wrote:Three questions.

1. Did Alfred Harrington know about Young's attempted assault on his daughter?

I seem to recall textev that he did.
2. Memory singers have perfect memory. Do normal treecats at least have good short term memory, much better than a human perhaps?
I don't think there is any evidence that they do.
3. Can treecats identify people from the taste of their minds? If one treecat knew a certain human was a criminal element and that element escaped, yet the treecat tasted his mind glow beforehand, could that treecat put out an APB on that mind glow, that would identify a perpetrator even if he underwent cosmetic surgery?

Yes. The text cites several instances where treecats identified humans from a distance by their mind glow, without even seeing them.
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Re: Information I'd love to know
Post by cthia   » Mon Oct 27, 2014 9:28 am

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SWM wrote:
cthia wrote:
Three questions.

1. Did Alfred Harrington know about Young's attempted assault on his daughter?

I seem to recall textev that he did.
2. Memory singers have perfect memory. Do normal treecats at least have good short term memory, much better than a human perhaps?
I don't think there is any evidence that they do.
3. Can treecats identify people from the taste of their minds? If one treecat knew a certain human was a criminal element and that element escaped, yet the treecat tasted his mind glow beforehand, could that treecat put out an APB on that mind glow, that would identify a perpetrator even if he underwent cosmetic surgery?

Yes. The text cites several instances where treecats identified humans from a distance by their mind glow, without even seeing them.


Thanks SWM.

1. So I'm wondering at what point he found out and how difficult it was for Allison and Honor to keep him from taking matters, literally, into his own hands. As I stated in the POV thread, that would be an interesting one.

2. It seems that even non memory singers would have to have excellent short term memory, since the memory songs are mostly dependent on the things witnessed and experienced by them. You can't relay your experiences to a memory singer if you can't remember them.

3. I wonder how long those mind glow impressions remain with a treecat. Its expiration date? Its memory of it.

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Re: Information I'd love to know
Post by cthia   » Tue Oct 28, 2014 1:00 pm

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:( Re Ephraim Templeton and Judith Winton
In the late 19th Century PD, he captured his junior wife, Judith. She was the daughter of Grayson merchants, taken as a prisoner when Templeton attacked and captured her parents' ship.

He married her when she was twelve and began trying to impregnate her. She had her first miscarriage a year later and a second six months after that; at sixteen she became pregnant again with a girl that Templeton wanted to abort because of his preferring male children. Judith was determined to protect the child and escape from her captivity; she had been taught to read by her parents, a fact she had hidden from everyone for years.

I don't know how advanced Masadan medicine is. I'd say, not very. At any rate, I'm surprised that a Masadan, or any descendant of Grayson, would ever adopt the practice of 'abortion' as a gender filter, since numerous abortions could cause an inability of a woman to bear any gender.

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Re: Information I'd love to know
Post by kzt   » Tue Oct 28, 2014 2:36 pm

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cthia wrote:I don't know how advanced Masadan medicine is. I'd say, not very. At any rate, I'm surprised that a Masadan, or any descendant of Grayson, would ever adopt the practice of 'abortion' as a gender filter, since numerous abortions could cause an inability of a woman to bear any gender.

From their PoV there isn't exactly a shortage of women. And it depends on how it's done. Given the nature of their society it seems kind of a strange decision, it's not like he's going to be bankrupted by the dowry or something.
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Re: Information I'd love to know
Post by SWM   » Tue Oct 28, 2014 2:57 pm

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kzt wrote:
cthia wrote:I don't know how advanced Masadan medicine is. I'd say, not very. At any rate, I'm surprised that a Masadan, or any descendant of Grayson, would ever adopt the practice of 'abortion' as a gender filter, since numerous abortions could cause an inability of a woman to bear any gender.

From their PoV there isn't exactly a shortage of women. And it depends on how it's done. Given the nature of their society it seems kind of a strange decision, it's not like he's going to be bankrupted by the dowry or something.

It's not that strange a decision, given his obvious misogyny.
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Re: Information I'd love to know
Post by SWM   » Tue Oct 28, 2014 2:58 pm

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cthia wrote::( Re Ephraim Templeton and Judith Winton
In the late 19th Century PD, he captured his junior wife, Judith. She was the daughter of Grayson merchants, taken as a prisoner when Templeton attacked and captured her parents' ship.

He married her when she was twelve and began trying to impregnate her. She had her first miscarriage a year later and a second six months after that; at sixteen she became pregnant again with a girl that Templeton wanted to abort because of his preferring male children. Judith was determined to protect the child and escape from her captivity; she had been taught to read by her parents, a fact she had hidden from everyone for years.

I don't know how advanced Masadan medicine is. I'd say, not very. At any rate, I'm surprised that a Masadan, or any descendant of Grayson, would ever adopt the practice of 'abortion' as a gender filter, since numerous abortions could cause an inability of a woman to bear any gender.

Why exactly would he care whether one of his women was unable to bear children? He had plenty of women, and didn't care on an individual basis about their physical health, as long as he was able to get sons.
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Re: Information I'd love to know
Post by cthia   » Tue Oct 28, 2014 3:13 pm

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kzt wrote:
cthia wrote:I don't know how advanced Masadan medicine is. I'd say, not very. At any rate, I'm surprised that a Masadan, or any descendant of Grayson, would ever adopt the practice of 'abortion' as a gender filter, since numerous abortions could cause an inability of a woman to bear any gender.

From their PoV there isn't exactly a shortage of women. And it depends on how it's done. Given the nature of their society it seems kind of a strange decision, it's not like he's going to be bankrupted by the dowry or something.

SWM wrote:
It's not that strange a decision, given his obvious misogyny.


SWM wrote:Why exactly would he care whether one of his women was unable to bear children? He had plenty of women, and didn't care on an individual basis about their physical health, as long as he was able to get sons.

I don't know about that, SWM. Granted, he may not care any more for his women than a tv remote, but we may abuse our remotes all we want, but we do not wish to break them.

Besides, I was addressing the adoption of abortion as a whole on Masada. In time, if the abortion attitude were to run amok, none of your several women may be able to bear. Multiply that by the entire planet.

It just seems too irresponsible and bizarre, even for Masadans. After all, they wouldn't want to create, as a whole, another birth crisis on Masada.

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Re: Information I'd love to know
Post by cthia   » Tue Oct 28, 2014 3:24 pm

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SWM, I do see your point though. And obviously, they - at least Templeton - agrees, by his actions. It just seems illogical, especially since just male births is all they want, as opposed to children in general.

Son, your mother says I have to hang you. Personally I don't think this is a capital offense. But if I don't hang you, she's gonna hang me and frankly, I'm not the one in trouble. —cthia's father. Incident in ? Axiom of Common Sense
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