(SPOILER) Nynian’s info and beyond (SPOILER)

Gedankenspiel –
Nynian was concerned that the copies of information on Corruption in the Temple provided through Adorai Dynnys was not being used/published, Nynian also alluded to having more information on historical corruption. She also has the St. Kodhy histories and artifacts.
There is an event coming in Zion that Nynian desires to participate in fairly soon. Could it be the publication of some of those documents/events and histories that will expose and revile the Inquisition are imminent?

Would it be a good time to start a publicity campaign against the Inquisition/Go4. If so, Nynian might find Merlin and his resources could provide additional outlets and a wider distribution of the information.

Does this make sense to start an attack with a targeted propaganda campaign? As I said, playing with thoughts

Hi Dwileye13,

There has been some discussion here regarding the "Antietam moment" for the alliance or the Church of Charis to reveal or publish what Nynian provided.

Did destroying the AoS provide that moment?

Should the alliance wait until after BGV and Symkyn destroy Wyrshym and Kaitswyrth?

Should they wait until after they defeat the MHoGatA?

That is, when the Go4 have no armies left, and God's judgement on the battlefield appears to approve of the alliance and the Church of Charis?

Feel free to forward feedback.

L

dwileye13 wrote:Gedankenspiel –
Nynian was concerned that the copies of information on Corruption in the Temple provided through Adorai Dynnys was not being used/published, Nynian also alluded to having more information on historical corruption. She also has the St. Kodhy histories and artifacts.
There is an event coming in Zion that Nynian desires to participate in fairly soon. Could it be the publication of some of those documents/events and histories that will expose and revile the Inquisition are imminent?

Would it be a good time to start a publicity campaign against the Inquisition/Go4. If so, Nynian might find Merlin and his resources could provide additional outlets and a wider distribution of the information.

Does this make sense to start an attack with a targeted propaganda campaign? As I said, playing with thoughts

dwileye13 wrote:Gedankenspiel –
Nynian was concerned that the copies of information on Corruption in the Temple provided through Adorai Dynnys was not being used/published, (snip)
Does this make sense to start an attack with a targeted propaganda campaign? As I said, playing with thoughts

As to her concern: It took her and her organization quite some effort gathering that info and she took considerable risk in shipping it to Tellesberg. Being disappointed it's not used as anticipated is my assumption. (She might have hoped, publication would've triggered more opposition to the Go4 in the vicarate and destabelizing Clynthan.)

Regarding her upcoming trip, I'm as clueless as Merlin. It wouldn't be necessary for a propaganda campaign, though. She either needs to meet someone important (Rhobair , Phandys , whosoever) or she needs to pick something up in person (Helm Cleaver, whatsoever). Why she wants Merlin to be present is another interesting question in itself. Anyways, I assume it's a meeting.

lyonheart wrote:Hi Dwileye13,

There has been some discussion here regarding the "Antietam moment" for the alliance or the Church of Charis to reveal or publish what Nynian provided.

Did destroying the AoS provide that moment?

Should the alliance wait until after BGV and Symkyn destroy Wyrshym and Kaitswyrth?

Should they wait until after they defeat the MHoGatA?

That is, when the Go4 have no armies left, and God's judgement on the battlefield appears to approve of the alliance and the Church of Charis?

Feel free to forward feedback.

L

I believe that the moment has come. Doubts are creeping into the population and into the hierarchy. The Aristocracy, Theocracy and Safeholdians in general have to be wondering where God stands. It seems to be time to give them something to think about. The continuing losses in the field and the appearance of the seemingly unbeatable armored navy will stoke the fires of doubt.

Publicizing the CoC opinions that the Inquisition and Go4 are outside God's Will due to corruption, politicization and the pervasive rot of spirituality plus having the documentation of same put forth around the entire world simultaneously would be effective and appropriate. This could be put forth as a Safehold wide conspiracy to expose the Church and demonstrate why the Reformation is needed to bring God back to the Church

anwi wrote:

dwileye13 wrote:Gedankenspiel –
Nynian was concerned that the copies of information on Corruption in the Temple provided through Adorai Dynnys was not being used/published, (snip)
Does this make sense to start an attack with a targeted propaganda campaign? As I said, playing with thoughts

As to her concern: It took her and her organization quite some effort gathering that info and she took considerable risk in shipping it to Tellesberg. Being disappointed it's not used as anticipated is my assumption. (She might have hoped, publication would've triggered more opposition to the Go4 in the vicarate and destabelizing Clynthan.)

Regarding her upcoming trip, I'm as clueless as Merlin. It wouldn't be necessary for a propaganda campaign, though. She either needs to meet someone important (Rhobair , Phandys , whosoever) or she needs to pick something up in person (Helm Cleaver, whatsoever). Why she wants Merlin to be present is another interesting question in itself. Anyways, I assume it's a meeting.

I am in agreement, but the why of the trip is curious. What would require her presence:
- an action of some sort in which she must participate,
- a meeting is doubtful because of her anonymity,
- accessing something only she has the ability to access
- on site management of multiple groups/cells

In any case, bringing Nynian into the Circle soon is what I think needs to happen

As to her concern: It took her and her organization quite some effort gathering that info and she took considerable risk in shipping it to Tellesberg. Being disappointed it's not used as anticipated is my assumption. (She might have hoped, publication would've triggered more opposition to the Go4 in the vicarate and destabelizing Clynthan.)

Regarding her upcoming trip, I'm as clueless as Merlin. It wouldn't be necessary for a propaganda campaign, though. She either needs to meet someone important (Rhobair , Phandys , whosoever) or she needs to pick something up in person (Helm Cleaver, whatsoever). Why she wants Merlin to be present is another interesting question in itself. Anyways, I assume it's a meeting.

I am in agreement, but the why of the trip is curious. What would require her presence:
- an action of some sort in which she must participate,
- a meeting is doubtful because of her anonymity,
- accessing something only she has the ability to access
- on site management of multiple groups/cells

In any case, bringing Nynian into the Circle soon is what I think needs to happen[/quote]

Hi,Dwileye13..

Agree they need to bring Nynian into the circle. As far as her proposed trip into the temple lands,I can't help the feeling that she wants Merlin there to show him something, something that might be just as much a surprise as St.Jerneau's was.

I do think that it's not quite time to reveal the documentation and proof she has of the vicarate's endemic corruption; as Cayleb has said, they want to use that when they're in a position of strength.No matter when they do it, though, the CoGA will denounce it all as forgeries and lies of the heresy.

It will be fun finding out.

anwi wrote: Why she wants Merlin to be present is another interesting question in itself. Anyways, I assume it's a meeting.

I don't think that she necessarily "wants" Merlin to be there, she just needs a quick ride there and back, and the only person on the planet who can provide that ride is Merlin. She may, as a result of his providing the ride, be willing to allow him information she might otherwise not have shared, but she has to go because she is the one who has to be there.

Bringing Nynian into the Circle, and having her go to Zion, is to put it mildly a path for creating interesting plot lines.

Caliban wrote:

As to her concern: It took her and her organization quite some effort gathering that info and she took considerable risk in shipping it to Tellesberg. Being disappointed it's not used as anticipated is my assumption. (She might have hoped, publication would've triggered more opposition to the Go4 in the vicarate and destabelizing Clynthan.)

Regarding her upcoming trip, I'm as clueless as Merlin. It wouldn't be necessary for a propaganda campaign, though. She either needs to meet someone important (Rhobair , Phandys , whosoever) or she needs to pick something up in person (Helm Cleaver, whatsoever). Why she wants Merlin to be present is another interesting question in itself. Anyways, I assume it's a meeting.

I am in agreement, but the why of the trip is curious. What would require her presence:
- an action of some sort in which she must participate,
- a meeting is doubtful because of her anonymity,
- accessing something only she has the ability to access
- on site management of multiple groups/cells

In any case, bringing Nynian into the Circle soon is what I think needs to happen

Hi,Dwileye13..

Agree they need to bring Nynian into the circle. As far as her proposed trip into the temple lands,I can't help the feeling that she wants Merlin there to show him something, something that might be just as much a surprise as St.Jerneau's was.

I do think that it's not quite time to reveal the documentation and proof she has of the vicarate's endemic corruption; as Cayleb has said, they want to use that when they're in a position of strength.No matter when they do it, though, the CoGA will denounce it all as forgeries and lies of the heresy.

It will be fun finding out. [/quote]

I think that the most likely thing for Nynian to bring Merlin to see would be the journal. So far Nynian has done the most in terms of trust. This would be the next logical step.

As for the main reason for the trip, I think it has to do with Duchairn's plot.

We shall see.

Don

n7axw wrote:I think that the most likely thing for Nynian to bring Merlin to see would be the journal. So far Nynian has done the most in terms of trust. This would be the next logical step.

As for the main reason for the trip, I think it has to do with Duchairn's plot.

We shall see.

Don

Don,

I believe that to be true! But the question that burns is: How is she getting information from within the Temple and the politics of the Go4? The more we learn, the larger, more complex and integrated into the realms of power her activities become. Facinating! RFC will have a lot of 'splainin to do