Amaroq wrote:Armed Neo-Bob wrote:
Someday I will have to get the Jayne's References. I have seen the Mk50 mentioned as the Courageous/Noblesse class' missile launcher; it was built 50 years before the first laserheads. The laserhead in OBS that broke McBride's hip was 70 tons, and the mass of the contact nukes was never given.
there are no references to the Mk34 or the Mk38 in the text of the books. Are they somewhere else?
There is also no indication in the text of the books that the laserheads used by Fearless at OBS were the same as any others-- during the Fleet exercise, the laserheads used were 75 tons--smaller than the Mk 13, larger than Fearless'.( Also, likely subject to later revision).
The only nomenclature I know of that was used for pre-war missiles aside from the the Mk-13 was the initial capital-ship laserhead (Mk-19) and its longer-ranged successor the Mk27C (from Wayfarer's pods). The later missile was 120 tons, but I don't think the range was ever given in text. There isn't any data on either size or range for the Mk 19, except that its power and range would both be unpleasant surprises for the People's Navy (as of 1883, in HoS)-, because the PN was using the off-the-shelf missiles exported from the League.
Aside from the Mk50 launchers, we are told the launchers in the Star Knights are Mod 7s, and when HH got an introduction to the Courvosier class, they had the RMN's Mod 19 launchers. No data on missiles, ranges, etc. The launchers on the Saganami B was only given as "second generation;" while the Saganami-C and Roland used variants of a Mod 9. So were the Bravo's using Mod 8? Who knows isn't saying.
The Mk-34 and 38 are in the Jayne's guide and listed as the shipkillers for those specific classes of ship that I mentioned above. I combed through OBS but it didn't mention what type of missiles they were. The Jayne's guide said that
Courageous-class CLs had the Mk 50 unlike most of the other cruisers currently in use so I put
Fearless there.
I've got the SITs books and Jayne's books. Remember, these books are dated 1904/1905 and predate modern Grayson designs (let alone Manticorian/Havenite 1st war designs). Don't forget, alot of the data here was changed later to be more consistant with the books so when possible always 2nd source with textev and YMMV.
Looking through SITS 3 (8 Manty ship designs, 7 Havenite designs):
The Mk 34 was a DD/CL missile and used the Mod 6 family of launcher (the Culverin had the 6c, the Illustrius had the 6a
The Mk 13 was used on all the CAs and BCs and used the Mod 7 launcher (the modern Flight IV Redoubtable and Homer BCs used the mod 7 launcher, Broadswords used the 7a)
Capitol ships used the Mk 19 missile, with the mod 8 series launcher (King Williams used the Mod 8 and the newer Majestics used the Mod 8a)
All ships mentioned above used the Mk 21 CM in 1904 and used the Mod 5 thru Mod 5c countermissile launcher, depending on age of the unit.
so the Manty launchers were originaly easy
Mod 5 - CM launcher family
Mod 6 - DD/CL SKM Launcher family
Mod 7 - CA/BC SKM Launcher family
Mod 8 - Capital SKM Launcher Family
with a letter designation indicating a version upgrade on launchers.
Havenite use seems similiar with:
LMC-8 - CM Launcher family
C2 countermissile
LME-3 - DD/CL SKM Launcher Family
E14 DD/CL SKM
LMF-5 - CA/BC SKM Launcher Family
F17 CA/BC SKM
LM-8 - DN/SD SKM Launcher Family
L13(a) DN/SD SKM
with a letter designation indicating a version upgrade on launchers.
